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Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft.

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  • U [email protected]

    why is Organic Street Maps better than the other ones, that claim to be Open Street Maps derived?

    bandwidth is not disposable ya'll.

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    Two reasons:

    • interface rocks
    • maps are downloaded for offline use
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      This post is stupid. The whole reason they are blocked is because Russia invaded ukraine, so the US sanctioned them, so Russian developers can't use Github, not because "microsoft bad" (true but irrelevant in this case) but because Microsoft is legally obligated too.

      Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.

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      Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.

      I... don't follow. How does this make the Microsoft, Github, and USA look good? The policy here is absolutely stupid.

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        Microsoft literally had no choice.

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        Exactly. The real issue is the sanctions against Russia. Why those sanctions involve FOSS projects, I'll never understand.

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        • sudoer777@lemmy.mlS [email protected]

          By your logic developers in the US shouldn't be allowed to contribute to free software either, after all the US is committing genocides and threatening to invade other countries

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          Well, yeah. That's literally the point of sanctions.

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          • sudoer777@lemmy.mlS [email protected]

            By your logic developers in the US shouldn't be allowed to contribute to free software either, after all the US is committing genocides and threatening to invade other countries

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            If some country will sanction US that is hosting FOSS, absolutely. That's not mutually exclusive with this.

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            • K [email protected]

              The US supplied 80% of the bombs dropped on Gaza.

              Do you believe US civilians should be prohibited from interacting with the rest of the world?

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              As a US citizen. YES. FFS, the point of sanctions is to compel a change or deter an action. Americans might pay way more attention when the rest of the world puts us in timeout because of the terrible leadership.

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                Upvoting for the concise summary of what the article is about (thanks!); not for the opinion expressed (which appears to conflate Russian developers with the actions of the Russian government -- something I find problematic at best).

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                Nothing personal against russian FOSS developers. They should be blocked (sanctioned) from contributing until the sanctions are stopped.

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                  Two reasons:

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                  • maps are downloaded for offline use
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                  that's enough for me, except are the other ones not good?

                  downloading maps for offline -- you nuts? how does anyone profit from the clicks?

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                    Well, yeah. That's literally the point of sanctions.

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                    The point is to damage their economy, not reject free contributions for non-critical but useful software projects

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                    • R [email protected]

                      I have nothing against Russian developers. But I do think they should be completely isolated and blocked from the outside world. That's the whole point of sanctions.

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                      If we would have taken the same line on say biology or mathematics we and the Russian people both would have been worse off.

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                      • I [email protected]

                        Eh, you don’t really have a point when people get banned for saying men aren’t women.

                        Please elaborate? What exactly do you mean?

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                        People get banned for saying men aren't women. You don't have a point when mods abuse their power.

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                        • R [email protected]

                          This post is stupid. The whole reason they are blocked is because Russia invaded ukraine, so the US sanctioned them, so Russian developers can't use Github, not because "microsoft bad" (true but irrelevant in this case) but because Microsoft is legally obligated too.

                          Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.

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                          I don't think I want my government deciding who can contribute to my open source project.

                          When Trump gets into a dick measuring contest with a US ally and sanctions them, POOF foreign contributors are gone. Community management, codebase familiarity, and open PRs be damned. It'll kill open source projects.

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                          • U [email protected]

                            that's enough for me, except are the other ones not good?

                            downloading maps for offline -- you nuts? how does anyone profit from the clicks?

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                            They don't - but at the same time it saves a ton of money on bandwidth

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                              This post is stupid. The whole reason they are blocked is because Russia invaded ukraine, so the US sanctioned them, so Russian developers can't use Github, not because "microsoft bad" (true but irrelevant in this case) but because Microsoft is legally obligated too.

                              Fuck russia. Honestly this post makes Microsoft, Github and USA look good, and Organic Maps look bad. Organic maps should ban russian developers from contributing.

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                              Are you aware of how much open source work comes from Russians? Russians != Russian govt.

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                                The US supplied 80% of the bombs dropped on Gaza.

                                Do you believe US civilians should be prohibited from interacting with the rest of the world?

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                                I mean, it’s probably in their best interest to avoid us. We are a terrible country.

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                                  Not sure why you're arguing "better" when we have both.

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                                  I don’t think we’re currently doing both of those things to Russia.

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                                    I don’t think we’re currently doing both of those things to Russia.

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                                    Economic violence = sanctions on Russia

                                    "physical violence Russia has exerted on the Ukrainian populace" = war in Ukraine

                                    Both are happening right now at the same time.

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                                      Two reasons:

                                      • interface rocks
                                      • maps are downloaded for offline use
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                                      I've been using OsmAnd for years, and offline maps has always been one of their main things.

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                                        I've been using OsmAnd for years, and offline maps has always been one of their main things.

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                                        OsmAnd is okay, but I really like the interface of Organic Maps better.

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                                          People get banned for saying men aren't women. You don't have a point when mods abuse their power.

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                                          Let me give you an analogy.

                                          I was born in the People's Republic of China. I immigrated to the United States of America when I was not even 10. I grew up in America, I grew attached to the principles of Freedom and Democracy. I went through the proper channels and I obtained Citizenship through the proper way. I am an American.

                                          If someone were to tell me that I'm "not American", and that because I was "born Chinese, I must be Chinese for the rest of my life"; or, in your phrasing: "A Chinese person cannot become American" you'd be a xenophobe.

                                          Gender is a social contruct. If a man wants to be a woman, or a woman wants to be a man, just let them. Its not denying that they have XX or XY chromosomes, that is what their biology says. But being a "Man" or "Woman" are labels society attributes to those chromosomes, just like the concept of Nationality.

                                          TLDR: Please just let people be whoever they want to be. If you start attacking people's identity, nobody is gonna wanna talk to you. If you want to spread transphobia, you can go to twitter. Enjoy your nazi bar.

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