Foundations laid for tribunal to try Putin for Ukraine invasion, EU says

[hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works]

International lawyers have “laid the foundations” for a special tribunal to try Russia for the crime of aggression, the EU has said, hailing a significant step towards holding Vladimir Putin and his top officials accountable for the invasion of Ukraine.

In a statement late on Tuesday, the EU executive declared a breakthrough that it said would mean the Russian political and military leaders “who bear the greatest responsibility” would be held to account.

The tribunal’s creation was initially proposed by Ukraine just days after the full-scale invasion, but for nearly three years lawyers have wrangled over finding the right courtroom.

[plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works]

International law is such a fucking joke. Why do they even bother with this performative bs? Stop wasting money on this nonsense.

[hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works]

Most of us are still operating under the assumption that rules still matter, even tho there is proof they don't.

It's hard to turn one's back on order when chaos is screaming in our faces.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

I agree that this will have no real-world effects on Putin, but I do think this is important for the sake of documentation.

[plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works]

Here’s the thing, even when we had order international law was a joke. The only reason laws work within a country is because the state can hold you accountable through violence if necessary. For a country or group of countries to be able to enforce their laws on other countries is through war. If you are not willing to go to war, you should not be engaging in this theater.,

[mrkawfee@lemmy.world]

Any second now, Israel will withdraw from the West Bank and Gaza in compliance with the ICJ ruling deadline of September 2025.

A plane will also shortly be landing in the Hague where Israeli police will hand the war criminal Netanyahu to Dutch autjorities pursuant the ICC arrest warrant.

One of the handful of times the Zionists haven't lied is when they say international law doesn't matter.

[akasazh@feddit.nl]

Except caring about ethicality of the conduct of countries is great.

What's not so great is that the county that pitched the idea then withdrew itself from its justification after it was realized.

But as an ideological beacon of jurisprudence we should all aspire to it's pretty cheap and much more worthwhile than wars on drugs, porn and abortion.

[x00z@lemmy.world]

for nearly three years lawyers have wrangled over finding the right courtroom.

It needs to be big enough for the masses to enjoy the hanging.

I suggest we do it outside though. That way we can have him rot away in the open.

[plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works]

It’s meaningless unless everyone is in on it, willing to be held to it and willing to go to war to enforce whatever ethical standards have been agreed. It’s pure theater.

And I didn’t know that it was a choice between international law and meddling in the lives of individuals.

[akasazh@feddit.nl]

That's rather silly. If jurisprudence would only work if everyone was in on it there wouldn't be any.

'it says in your lawbook that killing is illegal, yet Mr Dahmer here disagrees, so it's of the table'

Law is ingrained with our culture and it's the shitty fact of life that it's perennially imperfect as people always try to skirt it or circumvent it. That doesn't mean it's meaningless.

I don't know how you came up with the meddling in the lives of individuals bit, though.

[ahornsirup@feddit.org]

There won't be a hanging, nor any other form of execution. We don't do that here. It's uncivilised, it's brutal, and it's unnecessary.