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How can we make the Fediverse more positive and wholesome?

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      Stop posting world news (unless it’s specifically wholesome news).

      From a reader perspective, filter out everything news related (or subscribe to everything you want to see and only browse by subscribed).

      When you create a piefed account it asks if you want to filter the "Trump & Musk" keywords by default, that’s pretty cool.

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        I've been doing my best to approach discussions with empathy lately (I'm not naturally good at it). The people interested in mudslinging get bored I don't rise to it. People not interested in mudslinging but expected it get drawn into a conversation instead

        I hear you, your conclusion is valid given your axioms. We agree on these points. But, have you considered someone with different axioms would come to a different conclusion. Neither of us are irrational, incorrect, or invalid. We're mostly the same, just differ on a few key points.

        Does wonders

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          ban Nazi's and defederate from fascist instances.

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            Liberal use of the block button.

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              Liberal use of the block button.

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              Sorry, I should clarify: better for everyone*

              I want to help improve the experience, not just for my own benefit.

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                I've been doing my best to approach discussions with empathy lately (I'm not naturally good at it). The people interested in mudslinging get bored I don't rise to it. People not interested in mudslinging but expected it get drawn into a conversation instead

                I hear you, your conclusion is valid given your axioms. We agree on these points. But, have you considered someone with different axioms would come to a different conclusion. Neither of us are irrational, incorrect, or invalid. We're mostly the same, just differ on a few key points.

                Does wonders

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                Can confirm. The trolls get really bord when you don't flip a lid. Also, if you just ask questions that challenge them to think a little more, the tend to ghost too.

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                  Stop posting world news (unless it’s specifically wholesome news).

                  From a reader perspective, filter out everything news related (or subscribe to everything you want to see and only browse by subscribed).

                  When you create a piefed account it asks if you want to filter the "Trump & Musk" keywords by default, that’s pretty cool.

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                  This. Most news sites nowadays are all about clickbait and ragenews while pushing their financer's agenda (left wing, right wing, whatever)

                  And there's always the users whose only purpose is to post these clickbait/ragenews in 30 different communities as if they were karma farming on reddit; just poisoning the global feed with doomposting.

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                    My take is that the fediverse is wholesome. Today's news isn't but that is our current reality and the topics on a social network will always cover current events.

                    But when you really pay attention to the people here, they are wholesome. And if what you see is a lot of terrible people in your feed, start watching the instances they are coming from. Frequently the difference between a good and bad experience here is how well you curate your feed and how well your instance is moderated.

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                      Ok, this doesn't answer your question, but is that an ICQ icon?? God I haven't seen that thing in a bazillion years.

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                        Try to be insightful, supportive, and ask questions that lead to discussion

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                          WITH FIRE!!!!!!

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                            WITH FIRE!!!!!!

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                              Sorry, I should clarify: better for everyone*

                              I want to help improve the experience, not just for my own benefit.

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                              Food for consideration:

                              1. Blocking people makes the place more pleasant for you, which makes you a more pleasant person to interact with and the people you respond to will tend to reflect that.
                              2. Blocking people denies them interaction even in their less acerbic comments, making the place less fun for people who are so inclined.

                              Since becoming a parent, I've learned that sometimes self-care is caring for others because it helps us keep from being ground down to our worse selves.

                              That's not to say more can't be done, but don't discount the effectiveness of starving negativity of air.

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                                Sorry, I should clarify: better for everyone*

                                I want to help improve the experience, not just for my own benefit.

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                                Admittedly blocking isn't directly effective, but it could be if it generally gets people to stop feeding trolls, thus cutting off reward feedback loops for bad actors.

                                Just a thought.

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                                  Change the sorting algorithms?

                                  I’m not sure of the details, but the default “Hot” algorithm for Lemmy surfaces ragebait from popular subs first, while Scaled or New Comments are way more wholesome.

                                  This should be an ongoing experiment, but I think “Hot” or whatever is default should boost quiet communities more.

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                                    Try to be insightful, supportive, and ask questions that lead to discussion

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                                    This is a good point, I like how you've simplified it into 3 easy to follow steps; Do you have any more advice?

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                                      My thought process:

                                      1. Post wholesome content. You need to be providing what you want to see, first and foremost. Provocative content is easy engagement, but wholesome stuff is both a little harder to find and to get people to interact with.

                                      2. Support other people doing what you like. See a post you like with no or low comments? Leave a comment to show that person other people want more. Likes are nice and all, but I personally post things I'm interested in and want to discuss. If I get likes, but nobody is talking with me, I get bored and feel like posting less.

                                      3. Clarify when you post or comment. If you're sharing an opinion, make that clear. If you're interested in a subject but understand you aren't an expert, make sure you're not coming off as one. If you're bringing facts, support them with quotes and citations and be sure to credit others where it's due.

                                      4. Respect constructive discussions. If people are rude, feel free to ignore them. No one wants to see 2 stubborn randos arguing in a thread though. If people give counterpoints or ask questions of your opinion, return the politeness given or steer it back to positive interior you feel it isn't.

                                      5. Discipline is required if I can't stick to my principles that I've outlined. If I think what I'm going to post is going to rule people up or if I think I'm saying too much about something I'm not very informed on, am I better off hitting cancel than post?

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                                        Please don't, disneyfication is as bad as enshitifcation.

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                                          Tax the rich out of existence and watch how the quality of life goes up everywhere and everything starts being good again.

                                          Idk, I think the fediverse is sufficiently positive. I also think society is going through a wealth inequality period common with most of history, and we're either going to correct it or continue to suffer on a global scale. I don't think I want to be a part of any aggregation site that isn't tuned into the real world.

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