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How can we make the Fediverse more positive and wholesome?

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    It would be cool if people stopped thinking the only ideologies are their ideology and fascism

    There are ideologies that are bad that arent far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist

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      we require men to read a single feminism book, just one /j

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      pls drop the /j 🥺

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        we seem to be popular with reddit users that were banned from reddit, which on average seems to translate to less than wholesome behavior - so maybe lemmy's whole reddit-alternative branding works against us that way.

        maybe developing a distinct UI so it's not just a reddit clone, and directing features in a way that is appealing more to particular communities or people we wish to attract would be a good idea, rather than trying to directly replace reddit as a whole?

        for example, attracting academics by supporting built-in LaTeX syntax rather than requiring a browser extension

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          Could this be an XY problem? Maybe instead of having several accounts and a way to log in everywhere easily, the problem is lacking interoperability? It's hard to follow lemmy from mastodon, for example, but what if that was easy? Then you wouldn't need both a lemmy account and a mastodon account, one would be enough to use different aspects of the fediverse.

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          this sorta defeats the purpose of decentralization...

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            pls drop the /j 🥺

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            wish I could, unfortunately they're allergic to critical thinking

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              wish I could, unfortunately they're allergic to critical thinking

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              maybe we could give them allergy shots? in the form of bell hooks?

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                "I am angry entirely for personal pleasure, not for profit."

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                "I could be arguing in my spare time"

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                  Quit artificially upvoting US politics?

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                    It would be cool if people stopped thinking the only ideologies are their ideology and fascism

                    There are ideologies that are bad that arent far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist

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                    Yeah, I agree 100% but this also goes for the left. The tankies on some Lemmy instances are so vocal that it makes me appriciate the normal left more

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                      Let's talk about politics a whole hell of a lot less. Yes, things are awful and insane, but there is good stuff to discuss.

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                        this sorta defeats the purpose of decentralization...

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                        How do you mean? To me a network is decentralized if there isn't one controlling company or organization. In the fediverse, I can set up my own instance of mastodon/lemmy/honk/whatever. The fact that I can use honk to follow people on mastodon and interact with them in a smooth way is interoperability to me. I don't need both a honk account and a mastodon account. This is a good thing imho. I can choose which software to run, or which home server to join, and still interact with people using different servers.

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                          Yeah, I agree 100% but this also goes for the left. The tankies on some Lemmy instances are so vocal that it makes me appriciate the normal left more

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                          You and the person you're replying to are saying the same thing / agreeing

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                            Generously start using CWs (Content warnings) as folks used to do in the early days of Fediverse.

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                              i dont like wholesome anything, to me it is often infantalizing or saccharine

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                                Could this be an XY problem? Maybe instead of having several accounts and a way to log in everywhere easily, the problem is lacking interoperability? It's hard to follow lemmy from mastodon, for example, but what if that was easy? Then you wouldn't need both a lemmy account and a mastodon account, one would be enough to use different aspects of the fediverse.

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                                Yes and no. Mastodon and Lemmy and Pixelfed and Peertube and FunkWhale and... have different uses but can be mixed. It would be a dream to have all in the same place so you can have a tab to upload images, another for videos, another for news, another for microblogging, another for DM (Matrix? XMPP?), another for short videos (Loops), ... Just like FB has in some way.

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                                  Yes and no. Mastodon and Lemmy and Pixelfed and Peertube and FunkWhale and... have different uses but can be mixed. It would be a dream to have all in the same place so you can have a tab to upload images, another for videos, another for news, another for microblogging, another for DM (Matrix? XMPP?), another for short videos (Loops), ... Just like FB has in some way.

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                                  It would be neat if different front-ends catered to different types of users who wanted different aspects, but that there was an underlying compatibility that also worked better. If I understand it correctly, mastodon has implemented activitypub in a way where each post doesnt hold a reference to the entire thread hierarchy (as lemmy has), so it's difficult for mastodon software to construct hierarchies of replies in the same way, or at least it's more expensive to traverse. There's some differences in how groups are interpreted, as a hash tag or as a community. I'd rather be able to use one account and have the option to view activities in different ways, but now the implementations differ. That's the interoperability I mean that doesn't defeat decentralization.

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                                    "If you can't say something nice..."

                                    Shouldn't be regulated, but that's my advice for improving discourse and awareness.

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                                      Join/make communities that crack down hard on negativity

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