Germans, please go to vote!
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I'm not trying to defend this behavior. I agree with you on that. But they do not want exactly the same thing as AFD. E.g. CDU is pro European, pro Ukraine and they take a stand against fascism.
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I think people had a bit old fashioned view of voter suppression. It has been nowdays more pushing certain messages to certain people. I was more ref about the modern ways online, like what happened during brexit. Just search "cambridge analytica + voter suppression"
To simple way: spd voters get bombarded about how spd has fucked them years and years, green voters get bombarded how green part don't do their jobs. To make image that they don't deserve your vote anymore. Or it's better to send message by not voting at all.
And as this all happens online, based people's own Internet history, it's not visible to outsiders. There was few damn good documentaries after brexit how that worked. It's just using social medias data to send personal message, using adds, promotions, or just algorithms push, based people's data. -
Hungarian here, please, don't repeat our mistake from 2010!!!
The media might say that things are bad, but looking bad, the media exaggerated a lot of things. They tried to report as much crime committed by Roma as it was possible (even remembering the anniversaries of some of the cases), and so on. Then we had to realize "Roma crime" was on the decline, and Fidesz dismantled the laws that were responsible for the very decline (raising the mandatory school age to 18, now it's lowered to 15). "Fear leads to hatred, and hatred leads to destruction."
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That's not voter suppression, it's a risk you take when moving outside of Germany. The German state can't guarantee that you can easily vote if you move outside of its jurisdiction.
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Yeah, and all that actually does is strengthen the AfD by making their talking points socially acceptable.
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Me and most of my friends will vote left or green, we'll try our best!
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It affects all kinds of people depending on mail in vote this time including some that live in Germany. The federal voting commission has even explicitly warned about it.
As there is a strong correlation between mail in votes and progressive voters, and it was the CDU that enforced this faster than actually possible election, it is a classic case of voter supression.
And that is only the tip of the iceberg. There are a lot of other subtile ways in how the German government suppresses votes from people that are not living in the same small German village the last 20 years or so.
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People who live abroad permanently shouldn't be able to vote anyways. Also Dual Citizenship shouldn't be allowed
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including some that live in Germany.
No, the ballots were sent out on February 6th. That's plenty of time
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Yes, it does. You are right. But this doesn't change my initial statement.
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Talk about being priviledged without actively saying so
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Go explain me the privilege. I don't see it
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You coudn't even get the documents to vote in time as the government surely doesn't use DHL Express, and DHL Express also doesn't cover a lot of places.
But anyways, I have the feeling that it is pointless to discuss with someone that is openly suggesting anti-constitutional and borderline racist things here.
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Voting CDU is just not that different to voting AfD, that's the point.
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I was arguing to non-voters who adopted a "my single vote doesn't matter" perspective. A single vote in a country is never a few percent.
If people already know and trust that their vote can add up with others to a few percent here or there, they would already go and vote in our system I feel.
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What is Borderline Racist about my comments?
I don't think people should vote, who don't have to face the consequences of their vote.
It's the same things with Turkiye which citizens don't want Erdogan, but most Turkish Citizens living abroad vote for him. In Hungary and other autocracies it's the same thing.
I want a fast path to citizenship for people who want to live permanently here, or EU Citizens who moved to another state.
But if you take up a citizenship of another state you should loose the German one, unless you have a good point and apply for an exception. That's how it was a few years ago, and there is nothing unconstitutional about it
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That is typically the case with priviledge
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well, except if someone votes for a party that gets less than 5%. it's a bit similar with the US elections, when democrats would have won, if ppl didn't vote 3rd party for unrealistic reasons.
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How can you take a stand on fascism when you vote with the fascist party and copy their xenophobic and anti-"woke" rhetoric?
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On topic YouTube video by a rather popular German Comedian:
