Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

agnos.is Forums

  1. Home
  2. Technology
  3. ‘The tyranny of apps’: those without smartphones are unfairly penalised, say campaigners

‘The tyranny of apps’: those without smartphones are unfairly penalised, say campaigners

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Technology
technology
328 Posts 163 Posters 5.5k Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • B [email protected]

    McDonald’s (in Germany at least) needs your location to “see when you arrive at the restaurant”. What the hell?! That doesn’t even work properly and they force it on me! I uninstalled the app and now I am actually happy, because without the promotion and discount stuff, I don’t eat McDanks that often anymore.

    A This user is from outside of this forum
    A This user is from outside of this forum
    [email protected]
    wrote on last edited by
    #116

    McDonald's wants your IQ too. Seriously, it's in their privacy policy.

    B B 2 Replies Last reply
    0
    • S [email protected]

      I am still on a flip phone. It is usually silent, and I don't spend much time with it at all. While I am missing out on discounts and such, I simply hate the idea of constantly using a phone. Email is my telecommunication of choice, but receptionists don't understand the idea, unfortunately.

      My household bought a Rinnai water heater, and the bastard needed a phone to set the temperature. Thing is, it couldn't communicate with the two or three phones that were used on it. Fortunately, there was an old-school modification for a physical keypad, but that had to be bought separately.

      Phones are just not my thing.

      S This user is from outside of this forum
      S This user is from outside of this forum
      [email protected]
      wrote on last edited by
      #117

      I used a flip phone for a month to help curb my screen time addiction. The number of restaurants, stores, etc. that simply expect it of you to have a smart phone was eye opening.

      engineergaming@feddit.nlE C 2 Replies Last reply
      0
      • N [email protected]
        This post did not contain any content.
        M This user is from outside of this forum
        M This user is from outside of this forum
        [email protected]
        wrote on last edited by
        #118

        Early 2000 wants its internet back

        C 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • N [email protected]
          This post did not contain any content.
          D This user is from outside of this forum
          D This user is from outside of this forum
          [email protected]
          wrote on last edited by
          #119

          I'm in California where we have a grocery chain, Safeway. They've had a loyalty card for decades, which works great, gets you good deals, can be scanned by the checkout clerk or at self checkout. It also racks up points which can be used for discounts.

          About 2 years ago I started seeing signs in the store offering even greater savings through the app. There will sometimes be 2 signs side by side for the loyalty card vs the app. The app is always a better deal.

          So I downloaded the app and learned

          • the app cannot scan your membership at self checkout, you have to be checked out by a clerk
          • the app's membership number is different from your loyalty card number and the two cannot be merged.
          • because of that your points can't be transferred to the app

          It's the dumbest thing ever. Why not just offer the better savings to the loyalty card? Isn't that the whole point behind loyalty? I literally shop at Safeway less often now.

          whoisearth@lemmy.caW a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA N captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksC 4 Replies Last reply
          0
          • F [email protected]

            Even if they don’t outright cripple functionality, they’ll hound you endlessly to install the app.

            Still don't understand the logic of doing that.

            It's like saying,

            "Our website is nigh unusable, please install our app instead. We pinky promise our app works".

            wrrzag@lemmy.mlW This user is from outside of this forum
            wrrzag@lemmy.mlW This user is from outside of this forum
            [email protected]
            wrote on last edited by
            #120

            It's because you have control over your browser, but they control their app and all its trackers, ads, etc

            a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 [email protected]

              Phone apps are nothing more than modern toolbars. And in case you forgot or missed this phase of the internet...

              A This user is from outside of this forum
              A This user is from outside of this forum
              [email protected]
              wrote on last edited by
              #121

              Click to win a FREE LOBSTER Dinner 🦀🦞🦐

              Man I miss this era of the internet. It truly felt like a new frontier.

              01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • N [email protected]
                This post did not contain any content.
                a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
                a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
                [email protected]
                wrote on last edited by
                #122

                everyone wants to force you to use apps instead of websites, because websites and browsers have inbuilt protections.

                Apps don't.

                Idiots install apps, give them the 400,000 permissions they ask for, then go on their merry way..ignorant to the fact that they just installed a data vacuum on their phone thats siphoning everything off of it to be used and sold and resold for marketing purposes.. Even the phone itself its not safe, cause its sitting there, listening to your conversations, even when not on a call, to more "Accurately" spam you with bullshit.

                A tiger_man_@lemmy.blahaj.zoneT C H 4 Replies Last reply
                0
                • D [email protected]

                  I'm in California where we have a grocery chain, Safeway. They've had a loyalty card for decades, which works great, gets you good deals, can be scanned by the checkout clerk or at self checkout. It also racks up points which can be used for discounts.

                  About 2 years ago I started seeing signs in the store offering even greater savings through the app. There will sometimes be 2 signs side by side for the loyalty card vs the app. The app is always a better deal.

                  So I downloaded the app and learned

                  • the app cannot scan your membership at self checkout, you have to be checked out by a clerk
                  • the app's membership number is different from your loyalty card number and the two cannot be merged.
                  • because of that your points can't be transferred to the app

                  It's the dumbest thing ever. Why not just offer the better savings to the loyalty card? Isn't that the whole point behind loyalty? I literally shop at Safeway less often now.

                  whoisearth@lemmy.caW This user is from outside of this forum
                  whoisearth@lemmy.caW This user is from outside of this forum
                  [email protected]
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #123

                  My GF laughs because I have no loyalty cards or apps and I laugh that she has one for everything.

                  Loyalty rewards are bullshit.

                  L 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • D [email protected]

                    I'm in California where we have a grocery chain, Safeway. They've had a loyalty card for decades, which works great, gets you good deals, can be scanned by the checkout clerk or at self checkout. It also racks up points which can be used for discounts.

                    About 2 years ago I started seeing signs in the store offering even greater savings through the app. There will sometimes be 2 signs side by side for the loyalty card vs the app. The app is always a better deal.

                    So I downloaded the app and learned

                    • the app cannot scan your membership at self checkout, you have to be checked out by a clerk
                    • the app's membership number is different from your loyalty card number and the two cannot be merged.
                    • because of that your points can't be transferred to the app

                    It's the dumbest thing ever. Why not just offer the better savings to the loyalty card? Isn't that the whole point behind loyalty? I literally shop at Safeway less often now.

                    a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
                    a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
                    [email protected]
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #124

                    Loyalty cards werent a great thing either.

                    They werent to reward your loyalty, they were to tie your purchase history to an individual, So that information can be used and sold for marketing purposes.

                    It was basically the prototype for the invasive, information stealing apps we have today.

                    starman2112@sh.itjust.worksS 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • wrrzag@lemmy.mlW [email protected]

                      It's because you have control over your browser, but they control their app and all its trackers, ads, etc

                      a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
                      a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
                      [email protected]
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #125

                      Yep. They want you to use apps, cause all the permissions you give the app makes it much easier for them to harvest all your data for marketing and selling purposes.

                      S 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • captainhowdy@lemm.eeC [email protected]

                        You're an idiot or you're trolling, I honestly can't tell.

                        a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
                        a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
                        [email protected]
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #126

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • A [email protected]

                          McDonald's wants your IQ too. Seriously, it's in their privacy policy.

                          B This user is from outside of this forum
                          B This user is from outside of this forum
                          [email protected]
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #127

                          Ok, that is crazy.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • R [email protected]

                            I use an app for OTR (petrol chain in Aus) and they've removed the requirement for location which is... Unexpected, to say the least. Anything except using the pumps on the app no longer needs it when all orders previously needed it.

                            B This user is from outside of this forum
                            B This user is from outside of this forum
                            [email protected]
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #128

                            Thats actually pretty nice. And on the subject of cars: I don't get why (some) people with E-Cars say they are so much "greener" and then use like 10 different apps for the car, recharging, etc. Those servers produce so much, really, so god damn much CO2... (Not saying combustion engines are better, but...)

                            B 1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • A [email protected]

                              "2020 search"

                              Bruh someone's grandma needs help, we need to fix this computer, it looks like it's about to get stuck on zombo.com.

                              01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 This user is from outside of this forum
                              01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 This user is from outside of this forum
                              [email protected]
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #129

                              Or Jen hahaha

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • A [email protected]

                                Click to win a FREE LOBSTER Dinner 🦀🦞🦐

                                Man I miss this era of the internet. It truly felt like a new frontier.

                                01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 This user is from outside of this forum
                                01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 This user is from outside of this forum
                                [email protected]
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #130

                                I clicked, but all I got was a dancing stripper and something called Conficker.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 [email protected]

                                  Phone apps are nothing more than modern toolbars. And in case you forgot or missed this phase of the internet...

                                  R This user is from outside of this forum
                                  R This user is from outside of this forum
                                  [email protected]
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #131

                                  Then you could agree with any barely computer-savvy person that such things should be killed with fire.

                                  Now a lot of very competent person will try to persuade you how you are a luddite and wrong, except 5-10 years ago they'd also promise some bright tech future in addition to that, and now you're just wrong because they can exist in that environment and like it, and you can't.

                                  01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 [email protected]

                                    Phone apps are nothing more than modern toolbars. And in case you forgot or missed this phase of the internet...

                                    486@lemmy.world4 This user is from outside of this forum
                                    486@lemmy.world4 This user is from outside of this forum
                                    [email protected]
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #132

                                    Yeah, Bonzi Buddy!

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • D [email protected]

                                      I'm in California where we have a grocery chain, Safeway. They've had a loyalty card for decades, which works great, gets you good deals, can be scanned by the checkout clerk or at self checkout. It also racks up points which can be used for discounts.

                                      About 2 years ago I started seeing signs in the store offering even greater savings through the app. There will sometimes be 2 signs side by side for the loyalty card vs the app. The app is always a better deal.

                                      So I downloaded the app and learned

                                      • the app cannot scan your membership at self checkout, you have to be checked out by a clerk
                                      • the app's membership number is different from your loyalty card number and the two cannot be merged.
                                      • because of that your points can't be transferred to the app

                                      It's the dumbest thing ever. Why not just offer the better savings to the loyalty card? Isn't that the whole point behind loyalty? I literally shop at Safeway less often now.

                                      N This user is from outside of this forum
                                      N This user is from outside of this forum
                                      [email protected]
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #133

                                      "It’s the dumbest thing ever. Why not just offer the better savings to the loyalty card?"

                                      it's not a flaw. it's a feature.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • A [email protected]

                                        they make older phones become useless after ditching their support

                                        S This user is from outside of this forum
                                        S This user is from outside of this forum
                                        [email protected]
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #134

                                        My S21 is on the verge of losing regular security updates, and I hate it. The battery is fine, the camera is more than adequate, I do not want to upgrade.

                                        L captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksC T tlaloc_temporal@lemmy.caT C 5 Replies Last reply
                                        0
                                        • T [email protected]

                                          We want other options to be allowed to exist. This is "you just want everyone to be gay/trans/whatever" all over again.

                                          T This user is from outside of this forum
                                          T This user is from outside of this forum
                                          [email protected]
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #135

                                          Oof you're comparing government suppression of entire classes of people to linux' failure to attract developers to the platform...... How do you not realize you're in a cult???

                                          S 1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • World
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups