Is there a path forward for better support of newer hardware on desktop Linux?

[mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

You assumed he won't game on linux???

[hawke@lemmy.world]

Obvious answer: “people who game on Linux and ‘need’ 240Hz”

Probably not that relevant when not gaming, just as on Windows.

[hawke@lemmy.world]

I think they mean “smart” as in “smart tv” i.e. spyware (at best)

[hawke@lemmy.world]

System76 sells desktops too. Not sure about Tuxedo.

[cowbee@lemmy.ml]

It's noticeable, and even reduces ghosting and motion blur.

[atmur@lemmy.world]

My old monitor was 165hz and I didn't expect the jump to be noticeable, but it actually was. It's definitely well beyond the point of diminishing returns (120 is fine imo), but it's still a nice upgrade.

[atmur@lemmy.world]

I game on Linux lol

is it even noticeable beyond 100hz when not gaming

Actually yes, honestly it's most noticeable when moving your mouse or dragging windows around. It's insanely smooth.

[dropper_post@lemm.ee]

Interesting. Maybe my next monitor should be 240hz. Now im currently running 100hz

[eldavi@lemmy.ml]

It's a chicken and the egg problem.

There needs to be enough market share for manufacturers to care; but then there need to be enough manufacturers to support for there to be enough support to allow the market share to exist.

Like Lemmy; the big guys like reddit and windows have to enshitify enough for people to realize that they're getting screwed for them to seek an alternative. Like bluesky, many will try mac, but that too will enshitify eventually; so we have to be patient and ready for them to eventually join us.

[apt_install_coffee@lemmy.ml]

It's a chicken and egg problem; manufacturers aren't going to care to upstream drivers if not enough of their users are on Linux, which slows new hardware. It's much better than it was, but still ongoing.

Amd's 7000 series amdgpu driver was busted in several ways for like a year post launch, and is still missing tunables for many GPU features.

Manufacturers are capable of making out of tree and unfree modules, but honestly I prefer the slow progress if it means most driver work stays in-tree.

[penquin@lemm.ee]

Not be an Arch Linux shill, I don't use it (albeit a distro that is based on it), but try Arch or some other rolling release distro. There is a reason why Valve switched steamOS to Arch from Debian. Also, quit buying new shiny stuff, you a**hole? We get jealous over here

[mooglemaestro@lemmy.zip]

The best path forward is that developers make their linux drivers before they release their hardware to the market. You know, like what they do for windows.

There's no silver bullet here. You have to wait for someone to reverse engineer the drivers if the developers of the hardware don't care enough to supply even basic linux driver support. Either that or linux becomes so popular that it becomes senseless to ignore it (let's be real though, MacOS is popular enough for this to be true and yet there's still new hardware made that ignores that platform too.)

[domi@lemmy.secnd.me]

Are we just waiting for them to give a shit?

As for the monitor issue: Yes. I do not see how it is the Linux maintainers job to fix broken hardware or reverse engineer drivers. Write the hardware manufacturer that their EDIDs are broken, there are standards for a reason.

I bought a brand new 4k OLED Alienware monitor when it came out and everything worked out of the box. If it didn't I would have returned it because it's faulty.

[bcsven@lemmy.ca]

Yeah, I was going to leave it for the joke, but changed it.

[snowfalldreamland@lemmy.ml]

I don't have a solution just another experience: i have a Acer Xb270hu that i never got to work 100% . without edid tweaks it would only show a tiny picture and with the tweaks it only ever got to 120 hz. Now i have a Alienware AW2725DF and it works at 360hz out if the box no issues

[waspentalive@lemmy.one]

Could the kernel makers create some sort of sandbox to run Windows drivers in - so we ride on Windows coat tails until true Linux drivers are available?

[woelkchen@lemmy.world]

Yeah, especially for new AMD hardware a rolling release distribution is must have. My personal recommendation is openSUSE but the specific pick is secondary.

[oo1@lemmings.world]

Bring back the good old days of ndiswrapper.

[zamundaaa@discuss.tchncs.de]

Do motherboard/monitor/IC/etc manufactures need to submit their own kernel patches well in advance of product releases, like what AMD and Intel do for their CPUs and GPUs? Are we just waiting for them to give a shit?

Yes. There isn't really any other good solution.

[westyvw@lemm.ee]

I am really surprised how up to date Fedora is. The frequency is rather surprising. I have Arch on a desktop and Fedora on a laptop and the default kernel is only a step behind. Gimp was set as 3 for months now on Fedora which also was a surprise.