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Are people in the US aware that they are now definitely a rogue state, or is this fact simply covered up by the usual patriotism?

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    The West Coast is well aware. I really can't see anyone in the US not being aware of our country's wannabe fascist status, even though some will plead ignorance. I'm kind of hoping maybe Oregon, Washington and California will get together and ask Canada if we can join them... with a probationary period of course. No one in their right mind can trust us outright at this point.

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    For most of the democratic world, the US Democrats are right wing, like Canada, Australian mainstream. conservatives are to then left of the Democrats..eg it was Australians mainstream right wing party that brought in compararively draconian gun laws (by US standards)

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      Yeah. The usa has always been relatively evil... But also fairly predictable

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      Brits: phew, at least we're safe!

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        Mass strikes. Call your union, other unions, whatever union. Organise a mass strike day. Repeat it every week.

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        Unions? You think we have unions in the US? Most have been systematically destroyed by republicans since Reagan.

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          We understand that fully 1/3 of our population are absolutely bonkers. It's like being in a boat at see and 1/3 of the passengers are drilling holes in the bottom of the boat. What the rest of the world should know is that no matter how fucked it seems at the moment, it is going to get worse. We are on the precipice of a climate catastrophe. The AMOC is going to grind to a halt, Europe is going to go into a deep freeze, weather patterns globally are going to fall apart and become chaotic. The real problems are in the distance, so you should prepare yourselves.

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          The 1/3 drilling holes in the boat are doing so because the boat is taking on water and obviously they need to drill holes so it will drain.

          No amount of evidence, facts, logic, etc will convince them that their “common sense” is not only wrong, but actively making things worse.

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            uhhh always has been?? google github us atrocities

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              We understand that fully 1/3 of our population are absolutely bonkers. It's like being in a boat at see and 1/3 of the passengers are drilling holes in the bottom of the boat. What the rest of the world should know is that no matter how fucked it seems at the moment, it is going to get worse. We are on the precipice of a climate catastrophe. The AMOC is going to grind to a halt, Europe is going to go into a deep freeze, weather patterns globally are going to fall apart and become chaotic. The real problems are in the distance, so you should prepare yourselves.

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              I really need to build an emergency bag before the summer hits... Whenever that will be

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                Are people in the us aware... No!

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                  Mass strikes. Call your union, other unions, whatever union. Organise a mass strike day. Repeat it every week.

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                  This is hilarious. Last time my union tried to do anything, Biden stepped in and stopped us. Then he took a victory lap about being a hero in to us while Congress forced a shitty contract down our throats.

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                    My friend . When you come to realizations like that or thoughts such as "we are all one, connected and God is love" you have got to keep it under your hat or people will think you've gone mad

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                    You wanna get Fabian away from me

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                      Yeah. The usa has always been relatively evil... But also fairly predictable

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                      What's poor old Luxembourg ever done to offend you so?

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                        The average American voter is hilariously unengaged. Many of them read at an 8th grade level at best. We're suffering the consequences of an education system that has been tragically underfunded for generations, and our media institutions are thoroughly compromised. Because of this, media literacy may as well be non-existent. The worst actors in our public institutions know this and have chosen to capitalize on it. Foreign interests recognize the obvious weakness in our social fabric, and they have been taking advantage of it to great success.

                        We are completely lacking the most crucial part of any functional democracy - an informed electorate. We have the least qualified people making the most important decisions.

                        The United States is effectively a failed state. Many of us recognize this, but our options for addressing the problem are limited. We not only have to dislodge the largest defense structure the world has ever seen, but we have to somehow fix the plague of weaponized stupidity that is conservative culture in order to ensure the worst humans don't end up in powerful positions.

                        If you have any suggestions on how to start fixing that, I'm all ears.

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                          Those of us who pay attention know.

                          However, the media ecosystem is INCREDIBLY conservative and pumps out the rah-rah jingoism whenever it can. Those of who just stick to the mainstream echochambers think the US is a bastion of freedom and peace.

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                            Those of us who pay attention know.

                            However, the media ecosystem is INCREDIBLY conservative and pumps out the rah-rah jingoism whenever it can. Those of who just stick to the mainstream echochambers think the US is a bastion of freedom and peace.

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                            INCREDIBLY conservative

                            Is this American for "full of shit"?

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                              No thanks, our Conservatives are further to the left than your democrats, and California has the population of the rest of Canada combined. You can make your own country

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                              I agree about the Democrat party, but I wonder if the regular people of those states aren't closer to Canadians in their views.
                              If they were to join I imagine the existing party wouldn't carry over and new ones would need to be organized.

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                                The average American voter is hilariously unengaged. Many of them read at an 8th grade level at best. We're suffering the consequences of an education system that has been tragically underfunded for generations, and our media institutions are thoroughly compromised. Because of this, media literacy may as well be non-existent. The worst actors in our public institutions know this and have chosen to capitalize on it. Foreign interests recognize the obvious weakness in our social fabric, and they have been taking advantage of it to great success.

                                We are completely lacking the most crucial part of any functional democracy - an informed electorate. We have the least qualified people making the most important decisions.

                                The United States is effectively a failed state. Many of us recognize this, but our options for addressing the problem are limited. We not only have to dislodge the largest defense structure the world has ever seen, but we have to somehow fix the plague of weaponized stupidity that is conservative culture in order to ensure the worst humans don't end up in powerful positions.

                                If you have any suggestions on how to start fixing that, I'm all ears.

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                                Foreign interests recognize the obvious weakness in our social fabric, and they have been taking advantage of it to great success.

                                First step is to learn to stop blaming other countries for America's failure.

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                                  Good luck with the gardens. I've never really been a fan of US gun laws, but now it all seems strangely sensible.

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                                  In most of the US they have HOA who likely forbid such things for an absurd fear that a slightly uglier house down in your street will tank your property's value.

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                                    What's poor old Luxembourg ever done to offend you so?

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                                    Probably something to do with money? Just a guess 🤷‍♂️

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                                      Those of us who pay attention know.

                                      However, the media ecosystem is INCREDIBLY conservative and pumps out the rah-rah jingoism whenever it can. Those of who just stick to the mainstream echochambers think the US is a bastion of freedom and peace.

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                                      There are protests going on everywhere. Corey Booker did his thing. It's not enough but people know something is going on.

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                                        INCREDIBLY conservative

                                        Is this American for "full of shit"?

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                                        Yes. Yes it is.

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                                          Those of us who pay attention know.

                                          However, the media ecosystem is INCREDIBLY conservative and pumps out the rah-rah jingoism whenever it can. Those of who just stick to the mainstream echochambers think the US is a bastion of freedom and peace.

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                                          How I pointed something out to a family member this morning.

                                          When Israel attacks housing units in a country it is in a "ceasefire" with, the media says they are "threatening the ceasefire." If someone fires back. The media will say Israel is being attacked and the ceasefire was broken by the other party.

                                          While that should seem wrong to many, it flies under the radar for many.

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