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Are people in the US aware that they are now definitely a rogue state, or is this fact simply covered up by the usual patriotism?

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  • samus12345@lemm.eeS [email protected]

    Bullshit. It's easier than ever to know what's going on in the world. There is absolutely no excuse for not knowing how bad things are.

    Not being able to do much of anything about it due to having to deal with day to day concerns, I get. But as an excuse for being ignorant? Absolutely not. That's a deliberate choice.

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    I know people, who should know better, that don't know who to believe. This is when faced with both a verifiable source with a track record of accuracy, and an obviously cunning lone wolf with no substance to their argument.

    For every genuine source, there is a dishonest one churning out disinformation faster than the genuine sources can because quality takes longer.

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      Have of erica are horrified by it, and the other half think ita so.ething to be proud of, because theyre ignorant neanderthals.

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      Try again when sober.

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        I'm confused that polling seems to be neck and neck when the liberal candidate won by 11 percentage points last time around, her opponent sucked but an 11-point swing is wild here.

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        Once it’s all tallied, something like $100 million will be spent on a single state’s judicial election. That is insane. Ten million would have been insane just a decade ago.

        I imagine that’s why things are close. A lot of voters are being bombarded with (mis)information. The people who are undecided probably have no idea what’s true or false.

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          We're successfully distracted by the more immediate personal problems they've created for us

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            Americans for the most part are only dimly aware there's an outside world in the first place.

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            I had a friend that that looked like they were offended when they found out Australian Idol was a thing and it wasn't just in America.

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              Try again when sober.

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              Op was at least right about Erica.

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              • modernangel@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                Lots and lots of people, actually. Many identify with the tough-talkin' images being projected, believing it's just what the world needs and that the magic sorting hat will assign them to the privileged class when the dust settles.

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                "...that's what America needs, a businessman."

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                  The average person is not deeply aware of this stuff. All y’all don’t have any fucking clue what the average American is like.

                  Most people are just trying to get through the day. They want to pay their bills and make sure the kids are fed and Sally needs to get to dance class and Bobby has been having problems at school and now the boss wants to get that foundation poured tomorrow so you’re gonna have to stay late, but your wife can’t leave work early to pick up the kids so now you have to deal with that and oh, eggs cost double what they did a year ago and you haven’t gotten a real raise since 2021.

                  They don’t have time to spend on Lemmy, figure out how to use Linux, learn what a tariff is, or debate the difference between gender and sex, or read about what the Heritage Foudnation does. I do, but I’m not most people and the more y’all keep acting like those people aren’t like you people the more problems you’re gonna keep making for yourself.

                  Grow the fuck up

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                  If they didn't have kids because it was "the next step" in life they would have time.

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                    What internet? The one algorithmically controlled by the oligarchs?

                    What TV? The stations that were purchased years ago by our country's oligarchs?

                    What conversations? When everyone around them is being fed the same misinformation, and they treat anyone outside of their bubble as an enemy?

                    I would not assume the average American has any idea what is going on.

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                    What internet? The one algorithmically controlled by the oligarchs?

                    TIL that Lemmy isn't part of the internet

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                      Those of us who aren't Team Orange or completely oblivious know, I think. An appalling number of people are completely disconnected from what's happening, and a disgusting number either don't care or love it.

                      I lost the last shred of faith I had in the American people with this election. I delight in the suffering of every shithead that either voted Trump, 3rd party, or not at all. ESPECIALLY the protest voters, conservative minorities, and rural idiots stupid enough to think Trump cared about them or was somehow a better because they didn't like something the Biden administration did. My schadenfreude levels are hitting new, bitter peaks there.

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                      The Biden administration aided and abbetted genocide. The American monoparty would be proceeding exactly as planned under genocide Harris as it is doing now, just slightly more slowly.

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                        I had a friend that that looked like they were offended when they found out Australian Idol was a thing and it wasn't just in America.

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                        It wasn’t even originally an American thing, it’s from the UK.

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                          No "average" person is aware because they are too busy trying to just survive. Nobody wants to chance losing what they've worked so hard for. The only people who watch the news are seniors and disabled people, and they're being misled if they just watch TV news.

                          People who call themselves Republicans are happy with what's going on. People who call themselves Democrat are not happy but think they need to work within the system to solve the issues and wait until the next election. Libertarians have sided with the Republicans. Socialism is still a taboo way of thinking for the most part here.

                          Then you have disabled people (like me) who are watching what is happening in horror and have sky high anxiety wondering if they're next to be disappeared or homeless. I can stand for maybe 30 minutes at most, holding a sign maybe 15 minutes at most. So I'm doing what I can and that is trying to live as if things are "normal" to continue on my mental health recovery and sobriety journey at the same time being horrified and terrified of what's to come. It's a weird duality that I don't like. I told my therapist the other day that I have hope for the future for my recovery but I have lost all hope in what is going on politically and in the news.

                          A lot of this I also blame on false American beliefs fed to us in school that we were safe from all of this nonsense because of our constitution. The American Dream and all that B.S. They sugar-coat our history as a country in schools -- at least they did when I went to school in the 80's/90's, I don't know about now. It's as if America only has a rosy history, even the Civil War is glorified in false narratives.

                          It's easy to see how we got to this point as a country. The question is, how do we get ourselves out of it?

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                            Try again when sober.

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                            Nono I think they're on to something

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                              Liberals are just as much reactionaries as conservatives. They simply disagree on which status quo they’d like to return to and who is acceptable to exploit.

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                              the other guy pretty clearly meant liberal in a social & political philosophy sense and not a “liberal v conservative” modern american political theater one

                              like, anyone from .ml probably means liberal in that sense but in the particular context of this comment he definitely did and i’m confused why you’re getting upvoted when your reply is nonsensical considering liberalism is not diametric to conservative ideology within most frameworks.

                              sorry not to be a chode but wishy washy symbols like the ambiguity of the word “liberal” in modern discourse is a large part of what has landed us here in the first place.

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                                Depends. Everyone who voted against Trump knows this and it’s probably why they did but most non voters and maga are still ignorant.

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                                  The Biden administration aided and abbetted genocide. The American monoparty would be proceeding exactly as planned under genocide Harris as it is doing now, just slightly more slowly.

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                                  BoTH sIDes ARe tHe SaMe!!!1!

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                                    Nope, because most US voters never crossed their county line.

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                                    honestly, that's bullshit. i dunno if i'm just taking something too literally here, but no.

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                                      BoTH sIDes ARe tHe SaMe!!!1!

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                                      Now you're getting it!

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                                        No "average" person is aware because they are too busy trying to just survive. Nobody wants to chance losing what they've worked so hard for. The only people who watch the news are seniors and disabled people, and they're being misled if they just watch TV news.

                                        People who call themselves Republicans are happy with what's going on. People who call themselves Democrat are not happy but think they need to work within the system to solve the issues and wait until the next election. Libertarians have sided with the Republicans. Socialism is still a taboo way of thinking for the most part here.

                                        Then you have disabled people (like me) who are watching what is happening in horror and have sky high anxiety wondering if they're next to be disappeared or homeless. I can stand for maybe 30 minutes at most, holding a sign maybe 15 minutes at most. So I'm doing what I can and that is trying to live as if things are "normal" to continue on my mental health recovery and sobriety journey at the same time being horrified and terrified of what's to come. It's a weird duality that I don't like. I told my therapist the other day that I have hope for the future for my recovery but I have lost all hope in what is going on politically and in the news.

                                        A lot of this I also blame on false American beliefs fed to us in school that we were safe from all of this nonsense because of our constitution. The American Dream and all that B.S. They sugar-coat our history as a country in schools -- at least they did when I went to school in the 80's/90's, I don't know about now. It's as if America only has a rosy history, even the Civil War is glorified in false narratives.

                                        It's easy to see how we got to this point as a country. The question is, how do we get ourselves out of it?

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                                        Whatever the answer is, it's going to take years if not decades. I wish I had the answers. I wish I had the power to make things right. I wish I could stop the suffering. All I can do is do what I can. For now, that's surviving. For now, all I can do is continue to be kind to people and educate them when I can. Help them when I have the ability to.

                                        My fellow disabled person, I see you. A murmur can become a tidal wave with time. We must stick together. We cannot lose hope. We must go on.

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                                          Now you're getting it!

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                                          Ah, I was mocking you. Kind of makes it less fun when I have to explain it, but considering my audience it's to be expected.

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