Are people in the US aware that they are now definitely a rogue state, or is this fact simply covered up by the usual patriotism?
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It largely depends on the location. For example, in the PNW, especially Western Washington and Oregon, people are very aware of that fact. Many around here are arming, protesting, and becoming more and more self sufficient.
For their part, the Washington State government has sued the Trump administration multiple times, and for now, has blocked some of the executive orders in federal court. Of course, that depends on Trump following court orders, which as we know, he's more than willing to ignore.
Meanwhile in states like Utah (where some of my family lives), they still have their heads in the sand, and don't seem to be bothered. Not to generalize, because some people there are aware, but they're outnumbered by the ignorant public there. Many people there who are aware are either trapped due to financial reasons or are actively trying to leave for blue states.
I have seen that some GOP voters are starting to feel the financial burn, but most of them still try to blame it on Biden.
This doesn't seem to be actually answering the question. The question was about how the US was perceived by other countries, not how Americans perceive their own government.
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The fascists own all the media organizations. The population has been taught systematically since birth to have unyielding blind faith in the institutions of the state. Many won't understand that anything unusual is happening until they're hungry and cold, burying empty caskets for their drafted children sent to die in fascist wars of conquests.
This is the closest anybody in the thread has actually come to answering the question. The full answer is that Americans almost never consult non-American news sources, so of course they're not aware of how they're perceived in the rest of the world.
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Based on the pro Trump people in my life, I've seen two classes:
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Those in denial and ignorant in general (don't really follow the news), who don't believe for example that Trump is deporting people without due process, and blatantly violating the law and constitution.
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Those who are so sucked into the MAGA own-the-libs circle-jerk that even when presented with the facts and proof of Trump doing something blatantly illegal, will usually retort with something like "oh so when the Democrats do it it's okay, but now the Trump is doing it it's wrong??? You fucking communist!"
Both I believe are the result of being fed far right propaganda by YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, etc. It's the only explanation I have. These aren't random people I don't know. These are people I love and have known my whole life.
It hurts to see, and I don't see a way to help them that doesn't involve ruining those relationships. I avoid talking about politics around them because I know it's going to make me resent them, and I don't want that.
Note, that this isn't actually the question. It's not whether Americans are aware of what's happening, it's about whether Americans are aware of how the rest of the world perceives the US.
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Leftists, of course. Liberals will continue to be in denial for the foreseeable future. Conservatives just dgaf.
Not all liberals. But yeah most. Or maybe I'm more leftist than I thought I was....
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Some of us are aware. We tend to also be the ones who know this only ends in some kind of revolution. No dictator has even chosen to give up power.
No dictator has even chosen to give up power.
Taiwan's did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Taiwan_(1945–present)
It was actually neat. The "hybrid" between dictatorial state funding and a democratic business environment all but established TSMC.
But, uh, we don't talk about that here I guess.
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Americans for the most part are only dimly aware there's an outside world in the first place.
It figures it takes someone calling themselves "CanadaPlus" to actually see the actual question and answer it.
Everyone else is answering about how aware Americans are about what's happening, but the question was about whether Americans were aware of how the world perceived the US. The answer, of course, is "no, Americans have no idea because Americans consume almost no non-American media".
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Oh, we fucking know.
Doubt it.
What non-American news sources do you read? Do you really think that more than 50% of the US actually consults non-American news sources?
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It figures it takes someone calling themselves "CanadaPlus" to actually see the actual question and answer it.
Everyone else is answering about how aware Americans are about what's happening, but the question was about whether Americans were aware of how the world perceived the US. The answer, of course, is "no, Americans have no idea because Americans consume almost no non-American media".
This kind of question coming up a lot is why I chose the name, haha.
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Most Americans don't think about other countries enough to really grasp what you mean by rogue state
You're one of the few people who actually understood the question. As a result, you're one of the few who actually got the right answer.
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I’ve been saying this is inevitable since at least 2004. I’ve been called every name you can pretty much call someone.
I hate being right it fucking sucks.
Saying what is inevitable? That other countries will consider the US a rogue state?
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We're inundated with propaganda. Our media is state run. All for-profit media is state run.
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This doesn't seem to be actually answering the question. The question was about how the US was perceived by other countries, not how Americans perceive their own government.
Huh?
Are people in the US
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Yes, that's true. I'm more concerned with whether US citizens, whose past administrations more or less invented the term, can now recognize for themselves that they are no longer on the side of the "good guys" with this administration at all, but are now the "terrorists" themselves - the very thing that past US administrations denounced (entirely speciously, of course).
Myself and and a good number of people I know are very aware and horrified. Unfortunately this isn't necessarily the case outside of my social bubble. Since major media outlets aren't doing a great job, a lot of people are trying to spread the real news in a grassroots style.
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No dictator has even chosen to give up power.
Taiwan's did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Taiwan_(1945–present)
It was actually neat. The "hybrid" between dictatorial state funding and a democratic business environment all but established TSMC.
But, uh, we don't talk about that here I guess.
How is Ukraine a dictatorship?
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We're inundated with propaganda. Our media is state run. All for-profit media is state run.
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Huh?
Are people in the US
Are people in the US
Yes, go on...
aware that they are now definitely a rogue state
The question isn't your awareness of what the government is doing. It's your awareness of how the US is perceived by the rest of the world. A rogue state is "a nation that is considered very dangerous to other nations". To answer that question, you have to reference other nations views on the US.
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Are people in the US
Yes, go on...
aware that they are now definitely a rogue state
The question isn't your awareness of what the government is doing. It's your awareness of how the US is perceived by the rest of the world. A rogue state is "a nation that is considered very dangerous to other nations". To answer that question, you have to reference other nations views on the US.
I don't think I agree, and many in the thread didn't get that idea. People outside of the US are obviously aware, the title is clearly asking if people inside of the United States are aware. Why would someone outside of the US have to ask if people outside of the US are aware? It makes no sense.
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I don't think I agree, and many in the thread didn't get that idea. People outside of the US are obviously aware, the title is clearly asking if people inside of the United States are aware. Why would someone outside of the US have to ask if people outside of the US are aware? It makes no sense.
How can you be this confused?
You're basically proving the point of this meme.
The question is basically "Are Americans aware of how the world perceives them?"
Possible answers to that question are: "Yes, I read DW news in English, and BBC news too. I'm aware of how the world perceives the US." Or "No, I can imagine how the world must view the US, but I only read US news so I can only guess."
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How can you be this confused?
You're basically proving the point of this meme.
The question is basically "Are Americans aware of how the world perceives them?"
Possible answers to that question are: "Yes, I read DW news in English, and BBC news too. I'm aware of how the world perceives the US." Or "No, I can imagine how the world must view the US, but I only read US news so I can only guess."
I don't think I'm the confused one here, to be honest with you, as shown by the other answers and upvotes in this thread. You do not have to specify non-US news to know that we're a rogue state - plenty of US media reports on it all the same. The question is clearly asking if Americans are aware that they're now a rogue state, and I answered appropriately.
It seems like maybe you don't want that to be the case, but my answer still stands: Yes, many Americans, especially in the PNW, are very aware of that fact. Americans in red states [the ones who watch Fox news especially] have their heads in the sand. You do not need to consume any media at all to be aware of that fact, it helps, but you don't require it to acknowledge it.
Please do not project your confusion of the prompt onto me, especially after other people answered in similar manners (and no one answered in the way you're describing).
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I don't think I'm the confused one here, to be honest with you, as shown by the other answers and upvotes in this thread. You do not have to specify non-US news to know that we're a rogue state - plenty of US media reports on it all the same. The question is clearly asking if Americans are aware that they're now a rogue state, and I answered appropriately.
It seems like maybe you don't want that to be the case, but my answer still stands: Yes, many Americans, especially in the PNW, are very aware of that fact. Americans in red states [the ones who watch Fox news especially] have their heads in the sand. You do not need to consume any media at all to be aware of that fact, it helps, but you don't require it to acknowledge it.
Please do not project your confusion of the prompt onto me, especially after other people answered in similar manners (and no one answered in the way you're describing).
I don't think I'm the confused one here, to be honest with you, as shown by the other answers and upvotes in this thread
Yes, other people were confused. That doesn't mean that you're not confused.
The question is clearly asking if Americans are aware that they're now a rogue state, and I answered appropriately.
No, what you answered was "How do Americans feel about being a rogue state?" That's a completely different question, even though it's the one most people answered.
I fully understand and acknowledge that we're seen as a rogue state externally
The question was whether Americans in general understood and acknowledged that. I would say no, because most Americans don't follow foreign news sources. People who are getting their news from Fox News, OANN and Newsmax are probably not aware of that. Instead, they probably think the US is even more respected than ever.
