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Fairphone announces the €599 Fairphone 6, with a 6.31" 120Hz LTPO OLED display, a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3 chip, and enhanced modularity with 12 swappable parts

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  • lime@feddit.nuL This user is from outside of this forum
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    #140

    i mean the bezels together are less than 1cm. and the notch takes space from notifications, with two sim cards and a vpn active that shit overflows instantly anyway.

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    • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

      i think they mean "under" as in "behind".

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      lol, that’s very possible

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      • stzyxh@feddit.orgS [email protected]

        there is a e/os version avaiable

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        e/os is still android, i think he means Linux, and other OSes ! ❤️

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          Why does The Fairphone (Gen. 6) not have an audio jack?

          After some of the criticism that we received about removing the headphone jack from Fairphone 4, we did consider bringing it back for The Fairphone (Gen. 6). However, we realized it would be at the expense of increasing the phone’s dimensions. We also looked into the consumer data and Fairphone 4’s weight and thickness were more of an issue than the lack of a minijack, so we decided to keep the same approach, although it was a difficult decision. We didn’t want to invest in OLED technology for the display and then not have improved the phone’s dimensions and weight. But just like with Fairphone 4 and Fairphone 5, we will still offer an adapter, which has had overall positive user reviews.

          "We heard the criticism but decided that no, you would still need an adapter to use headphones, plus a USB-C hub to be able to charge the damn thing while listening to music or watching videos"

          Funny how that's the same excuses that we get for modern laptops terrible design. "We HAVE to make it thinner so there's no space! You wouldn't want a laptop that's not complete shit if it meant it'd also be less thin and breakable, now would you?"

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          Let me expand, as I usually deal with surveys and population feedback. There's loud feedback, and there's statistically significant feedback.

          People who want a headphone jack are very loud. They will interject this issue into every feedback opportunity given. They will mention it on the comment sections, forums, q&a sessions, answer their surveys accordingly, etc. That's all fine and their prerogative.

          However, when you look at the statistics. They are unfortunately a very tiny minority of the entire population. They are not statistically significant for decision making. They don't have the volume to move sales significantly. This sucks, of course, and I personally wouldn't mind the return of headphone jacks, smaller phones and bigger batteries as a fair trade for thicker phones.

          But unfortunately, the vast majority of the market is pre-occupied with other things. The phone screen is too small, the phone weights too much, the phone is too thick, I want to bring my phone to the pool without fear of it breaking, etc. They are not as passionate about it, not like the headphone people are, but they far outnumber them in several orders of magnitude. In the end, if the product doesn't sell, it won't matter how much it was worth to a single passionate person. It will sink the company if it doesn't have mass appeal. Making phones is already an extremely expensive endeavor.

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            Fuck these guys... Seriously. I bought a phone off of them hyped at the idea of the ethics. It didn't work on arrival. Over 3 months later and not one single reply to my helpdesk request (other than the Automated acknowledgement of receipt).

            Unbelievably bad user experience, I went from hyped at the concept of reducing my production of electronic waste to beyond disappointed at a brutally bad user experience.

            Then to make matters worse, it is difficult to source spare parts for the fairphone 4 (according to a friend of mine who owns one that he bought a while ago)... Like is that not the entire point of the phone, reduced consumption of new phones by supporting repairs. If you're going to stop producing the spares at least release the patents then.. if you really believe in the promoted ideals that you spout... Which they clearly do not.

            It turns out that it's just another money hungry company hell bent on burning the planet down to see a line go up, as far as I'm concerned. All gaff to sell shite phones at higher prices.

            Do not buy.

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            The to make matters worse, they’ve already stopped producing spare parts for the fairphone 4

            Your comment made me laugh! There’s no need to criticize the company if you’re having a bad day or don’t like it. It only takes a minute to check their website for spare parts. Most likely, it’s your local shop that’s out of stock, not Fairphone itself.

            https://shop.fairphone.com/shop/category/spare-parts-4?category=4&filters=33

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              Hmmm that looks like parts listings for the Fairphone 4 to me, why do you ask ?

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              The to make matters worse, they’ve already stopped producing spare parts for the fairphone 4

              philthi said this, LMAO!

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                Fuck these guys... Seriously. I bought a phone off of them hyped at the idea of the ethics. It didn't work on arrival. Over 3 months later and not one single reply to my helpdesk request (other than the Automated acknowledgement of receipt).

                Unbelievably bad user experience, I went from hyped at the concept of reducing my production of electronic waste to beyond disappointed at a brutally bad user experience.

                Then to make matters worse, it is difficult to source spare parts for the fairphone 4 (according to a friend of mine who owns one that he bought a while ago)... Like is that not the entire point of the phone, reduced consumption of new phones by supporting repairs. If you're going to stop producing the spares at least release the patents then.. if you really believe in the promoted ideals that you spout... Which they clearly do not.

                It turns out that it's just another money hungry company hell bent on burning the planet down to see a line go up, as far as I'm concerned. All gaff to sell shite phones at higher prices.

                Do not buy.

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                What are you talking about? I exchanged multiple mails per day when I had a problem.

                Also as others have mentioned, the parts are still available on their website.

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                • bahnd@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                  The GrapheneOS team makes their hardware security requirments very clear.

                  Its up to the hardware manufactures to include a few additional components used for securely storing keys, so far Google Pixles are the only consistent line of products that do so.

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                  So... they chose to make a very Pixel-specific OS and you're mad at Fairphone?

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                    foxxcon? you mean the same company that had a mass suicide from workers jumping off the buildings?

                    edit: sorry wasn't a mass suicide just dozens and dozens of people killing themselves because of the working conditions at foxxcon.

                    it's hard to find details about the mass protest with the threat of suicide because there's so many other single suicides at foxxcon.

                    If you're using a pixel or apple phone I wonder if you're using a phone that one of those workers put together 🤔

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                    Yes, that foxxcon. The one that has better reviews on Glassdoor then the company that assembles Fairphone. What's your point?

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                      Of course they are going to offer dongles too! The profit margins are way better on those. Fuck what the users want, we want money!

                      Louis Rossman on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRdL0StldJM

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                      Louis Rossman is a perfect example of someone who's angry all the time.

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                      • srasmus@slrpnk.netS [email protected]

                        Did some digging, but it doesn't appear the band compatibility with US carriers is improved at all. Am I wrong here?

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                        Would that be a problem when travelling to the... oh, right, we're not doing that anymore... would this be a problem for Europeans travelling to Canada?

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                          Louis Rossman is a perfect example of someone who's angry all the time.

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                          And an attack on his character is of zero relevance to the topic of Fairphone and jack ports.

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                            e/os is still android, i think he means Linux, and other OSes ! ❤️

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                            postmarketos has builds for the 4/5, and Fairphone has already submitted devicetree files for the 6 to the mainline Linux kernel:
                            https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/[email protected]/

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                              No earphone jack again. That's a bit sad. Even though I mainly use BLT earbuds, I still sometimes wish I could use my wired headphones. It's just a small inconvenience

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                              Honestly, I don't really get the people who complain about the lack of 3.5mm jack on a smartphone. If you're looking for quality you're more likely to get better quality out quality USB-C headphones than quality 3.5mm headphones due to the USB-C headphones picking up less noise and having its own DAC (which is probably better than the phone DAC that 3.5mm would use).

                              EDIT: I would've been surprised if this take wasn't controversial. But I guess it's a good example how the fediverse is not a leftist echo chamber. You have a loud minority complaining about not being able to use a century old technology that the vast majority in the mobile space has moved away from and any compromise on what you want is unacceptable. That's about as conservative as you can get.

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                                And an attack on his character is of zero relevance to the topic of Fairphone and jack ports.

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                                I would say having a headphone jack is better than not having one, but stop short of crying conspiracy. You would feel better if they didn't sell BT earbuds?

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                                  a vague promise

                                  "Instead of a one-size-fits-all approach, we collaborate with suppliers to develop improvement plans that are informed by detailed assessments and worker surveys." p. 28

                                  From their recently published annual(I think?) impact report. There's a bit more detail under section 4.3, not crazy specific but definitely better than a vague promise imo.

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                                  The single best thing for sustainability is long lifetime of the phone. Now that EU mandates it and Apple, Pixel and Samsung all offer 7 years of updates Fairphone's advantage here is slim. The rest are just vague promises. Apple also promises to support people and communities involved in its supply chain:
                                  https://www.apple.com/supply-chain/
                                  All the companies try to avoid sweatshops because it's terrible for PR but unless you are actually going to assemble the phone in EU you don't really know who made it. For me the difference between two phones made in China is not big enough to pay double.

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                                    You can find adapters that can charge while still having a 3.5mm back

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                                    fast charging / USB-PD may not work, and 3.5mm media controls may not pass through properly

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                                      The to make matters worse, they’ve already stopped producing spare parts for the fairphone 4

                                      What's this then?

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                                      In terms of fp4 replacement parts, I am only quoting a friend of mine, I haven't personally looked into that; though I was ready to believe it after my experience.

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                                        From their own site it would seem they don't. There is a "US" version but you can't buy a Fairphone from the website directly.

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                                        Rofl if they dump them on ebay as new from a third party US shipper.

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                                          What do you mean with stopped producing spare parts for FP4? They are still widely available

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                                          In terms of fp4 replacement parts, I am only quoting a friend of mine, I haven't personally looked into that; though I was ready to believe it after my experience.

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