no way right
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Kratos is a terrorist?
Kratos is Hamas.
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Clearly I didn’t communicate very well. I was positing that people then to view it as a polar choice. SO if it wasn’t Al Qaida, it must have been Bush… It is the base premise, from a country thinking between two sports clubs at a superbowl, to 2 major parties, to good and evil concepts. When you make certain accusations to certain foreign intelligence agencies (where did I write US foreign intelligence agencies?) then you don’t name them.
Anyway, seeing how you’re a Commission Report apologist who doesn’t understand
- buildings, no matter their construction cannot fall at near free fall speed.
- The Pentagon, even in 2001 was a highly secured building, there were many CCTV angles of the pentagon covering the impact.
- the uncommon nature of a 2 trillion $ going missing EVER, let a lone the day before, let alone the value of that money that day.
And most interestingly, people like you always assume that people who say it certainly wasn’t what the official story says it was, then have to offer a complete fully funded investigation and propose exactly what happened to the random arbitration of your satisfaction. How about they did an actual investigation first? Like a criminal investigation by an impartial 3rd party body?
The reason they got away with it is because the bigger the lie, the more people believe it, and a vast majority of the population is raised so lovingly that that can’t imagine anyone doing such a cowardly, manipulative narcissistic act in order to move a hidden agenda forward.
All the rest isn’t really worth engaging any further in, as you don’t get the basics down, and can’t open yourself up to my hypothesis. I have considered and studied most of yours.
Don’t get me wrong, I would trade that part of my consciousness, as I see lots of people live much simpler and happier lives by believing the official story.
. I was positing that people then to view it as a polar choice. SO if it wasn’t Al Qaida, it must have been Bush… It is the base premise, from a country thinking between two sports clubs at a superbowl, to 2 major parties, to good and evil concepts.
Right, but my original state was that there doesn't need to be a conspiracy before the US to be attacked for our history of foreign intervention. I never claimed it was bush.
When you make certain accusations to certain foreign intelligence agencies (where did I write US foreign intelligence agencies?) then you don’t name them.
Which is why I asked for clarification...... foreign intelligence agency can mean both an intelligence agency from a foreign country or a domestic intelligence agency who operates non foreign soil. Is English your second language?
Anyway, seeing how you’re a Commission Report apologist who doesn’t understand
Lol, and you appear to be in the "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" community.
buildings, no matter their construction cannot fall at near free fall speed.
I don't imagine you have the education to determine what "near free fall speed is" nor do you have any evidence that supports that claim.
The Pentagon, even in 2001 was a highly secured building, there were many CCTV angles of the pentagon covering the impact.
And you know that how? Plus what is your point? What exactly are you implying by assuming they are hiding footage?
- the uncommon nature of a 2 trillion $ going missing EVER, let a lone the day before, let alone the value of that money that day.
I mean, it would be odd if it were true......
And most interestingly, people like you always assume that people who say it certainly wasn’t what the official story says it was, then have to offer a complete fully funded investigation and propose exactly what happened to the random arbitration of your satisfaction.
Lol, that is the basis of any claim. If you are making a claim, it has to be backed by evidence. Even if we are not following that very basic rule, pointing out simple flaws in your theories logic is a way to make you actually think about it instead of automatically believing in it.
How about they did an actual investigation first? Like a criminal investigation by an impartial 3rd party body?
That's what a commission is you dolt.
The reason they got away with it is because the bigger the lie, the more people believe it, and a vast majority of the population is raised so lovingly that that can’t imagine anyone doing such a cowardly, manipulative narcissistic act in order to move a hidden agenda forward
Lol, yeah it well know the more people involved nwith your lie, the less likely you'll be discovered.
the rest isn’t really worth engaging any further in, as you don’t get the basics down, and can’t open yourself up to my hypothesis. I have considered and studied most of yours.
You didn't pay out a hypothesis......you've made cryptic and vague accusations about the current narrative without offering a kind of actual hypothesis on what exactly happened on the day of 9/11.
Don’t get me wrong, I would trade that part of my consciousness, as I see lots of people live much simpler and happier lives by believing the official story.
Are you off your meds? The "I am the main protagonist's energy" is reaching clinical levels.
If you want an actual rundown from a non biased source I would suggest Well there's your problem
It's a podcast about engineering problems run by an engineer, and the hosts are all varying degrees now leftist. The one I linked is about the towers, but they also have one over building 7.
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Is that why he said he will declare his decision in two weeks, they need time to set it up
Everything is '2 weeks'. It's the only time frame he gives. Probably read somewhere that the news cycle is only 2 weeks so he thinks everyone will forget by then. (They will.)
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Operation Northwoods. They were plannning false flags as long as the CIA has existed
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. I was positing that people then to view it as a polar choice. SO if it wasn’t Al Qaida, it must have been Bush… It is the base premise, from a country thinking between two sports clubs at a superbowl, to 2 major parties, to good and evil concepts.
Right, but my original state was that there doesn't need to be a conspiracy before the US to be attacked for our history of foreign intervention. I never claimed it was bush.
When you make certain accusations to certain foreign intelligence agencies (where did I write US foreign intelligence agencies?) then you don’t name them.
Which is why I asked for clarification...... foreign intelligence agency can mean both an intelligence agency from a foreign country or a domestic intelligence agency who operates non foreign soil. Is English your second language?
Anyway, seeing how you’re a Commission Report apologist who doesn’t understand
Lol, and you appear to be in the "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" community.
buildings, no matter their construction cannot fall at near free fall speed.
I don't imagine you have the education to determine what "near free fall speed is" nor do you have any evidence that supports that claim.
The Pentagon, even in 2001 was a highly secured building, there were many CCTV angles of the pentagon covering the impact.
And you know that how? Plus what is your point? What exactly are you implying by assuming they are hiding footage?
- the uncommon nature of a 2 trillion $ going missing EVER, let a lone the day before, let alone the value of that money that day.
I mean, it would be odd if it were true......
And most interestingly, people like you always assume that people who say it certainly wasn’t what the official story says it was, then have to offer a complete fully funded investigation and propose exactly what happened to the random arbitration of your satisfaction.
Lol, that is the basis of any claim. If you are making a claim, it has to be backed by evidence. Even if we are not following that very basic rule, pointing out simple flaws in your theories logic is a way to make you actually think about it instead of automatically believing in it.
How about they did an actual investigation first? Like a criminal investigation by an impartial 3rd party body?
That's what a commission is you dolt.
The reason they got away with it is because the bigger the lie, the more people believe it, and a vast majority of the population is raised so lovingly that that can’t imagine anyone doing such a cowardly, manipulative narcissistic act in order to move a hidden agenda forward
Lol, yeah it well know the more people involved nwith your lie, the less likely you'll be discovered.
the rest isn’t really worth engaging any further in, as you don’t get the basics down, and can’t open yourself up to my hypothesis. I have considered and studied most of yours.
You didn't pay out a hypothesis......you've made cryptic and vague accusations about the current narrative without offering a kind of actual hypothesis on what exactly happened on the day of 9/11.
Don’t get me wrong, I would trade that part of my consciousness, as I see lots of people live much simpler and happier lives by believing the official story.
Are you off your meds? The "I am the main protagonist's energy" is reaching clinical levels.
If you want an actual rundown from a non biased source I would suggest Well there's your problem
It's a podcast about engineering problems run by an engineer, and the hosts are all varying degrees now leftist. The one I linked is about the towers, but they also have one over building 7.
Have a great life man, sounds awesome.
3rd party body you’re referring to was conducted by the same patriotic cult government-in-shock that was just attacked. I meant an international one. No need to start using slurs, makes you look like you can’t win with proper argumentation.
Jet fuel actually can’t melt steel beams, but you know that too, because you’re referring to “engineering lefties who laugh at RBG’s death” and that’s somehow relevant to what I’m saying.
Jet fuel can weaken steel and that can help the collapse, but not at the speed we saw on camera. If you want sources, you can use a search engine. If you like engineers, go find the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth.
Again with the insults of intelligence. You need to work on your reasoning and debating skills.
Even the Reuters fact check calls it misrepresenting, not false. He did say that that day. It didn’t go missing overnight is the “misrepresentation”.
Hypothesis: A close ally of the US attacked the US to coerce them into & drum up public (& international) support for decade long wars to setup more wars so eventually the death cult can have the greater state to control all the holy lands of the middle east.
You may not understand that because you may listen to maniacal laughing engineering podcasts, you don’t understand covert cult power and how these factions have worshipped and warred for their death cult dogmas for centuries. Nor do you seem to grasp how human psychology and mass psychosis works.
You are good at trying to make people ont he internet feel small though. Digital chest bouncing isn’t really a Lemmy thing here, we try to have respectful dialogue. If you can’t do that, Reddit will probably gladly take you back.
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manufacturing consent.
if you have no morals, it is a good time to invest in Raytheon
It's always a good time to invest in Raytheon
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I'm so sick of reboots.
Now with AI everywhere, everything is a reboot/mashup slop!
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I feel less and less sad for people in the USA as time goes on because of exactly what you say. How did they not see it coming? HOOOOOW? And how did a third push for it, a third sorta try to help, and the other third maybe or maybe not just still doesn’t even know what’s happening?
The average person has no control in the US. It is and apparently always will be an oligarchy with the illusion of freedom and democracy.
The media did managed to convince a third of people that Trump is anti government which is pretty rich. It just shows how far propaganda has come.
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manufacturing consent.
if you have no morals, it is a good time to invest in Raytheon
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Have a great life man, sounds awesome.
3rd party body you’re referring to was conducted by the same patriotic cult government-in-shock that was just attacked. I meant an international one. No need to start using slurs, makes you look like you can’t win with proper argumentation.
Jet fuel actually can’t melt steel beams, but you know that too, because you’re referring to “engineering lefties who laugh at RBG’s death” and that’s somehow relevant to what I’m saying.
Jet fuel can weaken steel and that can help the collapse, but not at the speed we saw on camera. If you want sources, you can use a search engine. If you like engineers, go find the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth.
Again with the insults of intelligence. You need to work on your reasoning and debating skills.
Even the Reuters fact check calls it misrepresenting, not false. He did say that that day. It didn’t go missing overnight is the “misrepresentation”.
Hypothesis: A close ally of the US attacked the US to coerce them into & drum up public (& international) support for decade long wars to setup more wars so eventually the death cult can have the greater state to control all the holy lands of the middle east.
You may not understand that because you may listen to maniacal laughing engineering podcasts, you don’t understand covert cult power and how these factions have worshipped and warred for their death cult dogmas for centuries. Nor do you seem to grasp how human psychology and mass psychosis works.
You are good at trying to make people ont he internet feel small though. Digital chest bouncing isn’t really a Lemmy thing here, we try to have respectful dialogue. If you can’t do that, Reddit will probably gladly take you back.
3rd party body you’re referring to was conducted by the same patriotic cult government-in-shock that was just attacked. I meant an international one.
What exactly would an international investigation go over that the commission didn't? First you said it has to be a 3rd party, then an international third party, if that was done you'd probably claim that it should have been done by an adversarial nation.
If you have actually criticism of the work conducted and not who was conducting it might be a valid argument.
No need to start using slurs, makes you look like you can’t win with proper argumentation.
Lol, your entire argument has been arrogant, you have implied multiple times that people who don't agree with you just haven't evaluated the problem as much as you have or just aren't as capable of understanding.
You can't insult people's intelligence and then say the stupidest shit possible and not expect to be called an idiot.
engineering lefties who laugh at RBG’s death” and that’s somehow relevant to what I’m saying.
Lol, is that the only part of the hour and a half program that step by step explains how the towers fell that toy listened too? The whole thing is over 9/11 of course it is relevant..... That particular part is someone finding out just how screwed the country was at that time, and they dealt with it by laughing. Did you not listen to the surroundings context?
Jet fuel can weaken steel and that can help the collapse, but not at the speed we saw on camera. If you want sources, you can use a search engine. If you like engineers, go find the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth.
Lol, the group that's been debunked several times?
"In 2008, Zdeněk P. Bažant, professor of civil engineering and materials science at Northwestern University, published with three coauthors a paper to examine whether allegations of controlled demolition might be scientifically justifiable. They found that the available video records are not consistent with the free fall hypothesis, that the size of the concrete particles is consistent with comminution caused by impact, and that the high velocity of compressed air explains why material from the towers were ejected to a distance of several hundred meters from the tower. The authors conclude that the allegations of controlled demolition do not have any scientific merit.[53] A spokesman for NIST said that any sightings of molten metal, including metal seen pouring from the South Tower, were likely molten aluminum from the airplane, an explanation disputed by Gage who stated that the color of the molten metal rules out aluminum.[54] "Basically, gravity and the utter force of the upper floors forced the towers down," said NIST spokesperson Michael Newman.[48]"
That group thinks people planted nano thermite..... Which has never been used to demo a building before.
Again with the insults of intelligence. You need to work on your reasoning and debating skills.
Lol, you started it.....
Even the Reuters fact check calls it misrepresenting, not false. He did say that that day. It didn’t go missing overnight is the “misrepresentation”.
No, they said that rumsfield was misquoting an auditing report that said that 2 trillion in spending wasn't supported by proper auditing trails while 2.6 trillion was. Basically the government wasn't handling their receipts very well, not that 2.6 trillion dollars vanished.
How exactly did this spending support your argument in the first place?
Hypothesis: A close ally of the US attacked the US to coerce them into & drum up public (& international) support for decade long wars to setup more wars so eventually the death cult can have the greater state to control all the holy lands of the middle east.
Why are you so afraid to just say you think it was Israel? That's obviously what you are alluding too. If it was Israel, wouldn't you think they'd just pin it on Iran in the first place? Why pin it on Afghanistan, or Iraq? Why risk Americans becoming tired of conflict in the Middle East?
You may not understand that because you may listen to maniacal laughing engineering podcasts, you don’t understand covert cult power and how these factions have worshipped and warred for their death cult dogmas for centuries. Nor do you seem to grasp how human psychology and mass psychosis works.
Lol, you don't see how this is belittling or insulting? You aren't making any claims, you're just attacking my ability bro comprehend..... Yet when I call you a dolt, you call foul. "You need to work on your reasoning and debating skills."
are good at trying to make people ont he internet feel small though. Digital chest bouncing isn’t really a Lemmy thing here, we try to have respectful dialogue. If you can’t do that, Reddit will probably gladly take you back.
Nothing you said was respectful dialogue. Your only argument is that avoiding making any claims by saying I wouldn't be capable of understanding your claims.
Again, if your going to make claims based on nothing but antisemitism, just say it with your chest. I'm not a fan of the geopolitics of the Israeli state, but I don't wrap my criticism in antisemitic language like calling the a death cult.
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Inside job gives them too much credit, imo.
Fact is they already knew about Bin Laden and simply decided "you know, what if we just turned around for a second and, well, if something were to happen...?"
And to do that? A tiny budget cut here, a little policy shift there, and... kaboom!
Not so much that they planned anything themselves regarding the attack, they just lowered their guard enough to let it happen.
Or this is what they let people think
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Welp, I guess we didn't need a terrorist attack to justify war with Iran after all.
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Whatever happened to, "If I were President, the war would never have happened"
Or is that just a talking point he made up.
wdym? He would never do such a thing
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Welp, I guess we didn't need a terrorist attack to justify war with Iran after all.
A rorist attack, thank you very much.
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wdym? He would never do such a thing
He said that repeatedly on and off the campaign trail, and later as President during this term, regarding the Russia-Ukraine war. As if him being President then would have in any way changed Putin's decision to invade.
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America bombs a country - Great military action
Country attacks back - Insurgent act of terrorism
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That’s why right wing social media is going had on making Iran the bad guys and evil.
So even though they don’t want war and are currently complaining about the thought of it, they’ll bend over for it in short time.
The mental gymnastics will be amazing.
Gotta save money. Government needs to cut everything including any social care. But also needs to spend more on deporting babies with cancer.
And you know moving an expeditionary force around the world isn’t cheap either.
The money goes to the war hawks, not the teenagers that actually end up fighting and dying. That's why it keeps happening. People in power put a price and bodies and they're entirely happy with the payout. Doesn't cost them a drop of sweat, an inkling of blood, a modicum of effort. Just sign here and unleash those kids to the grinder. Sweet sweet money comes from their deaths. How honorable.
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It’s really sad - back on 9/11, I thought “That’s horrible! What kind of evil country could hate us so much they’d want to attack our civilians!?”
Now, if another 9/11 happens, I may just shrug and think “…Yeah…we’re America. We deserve it.”
9/11 is a fraction of a fraction of the horror the U.S has unleashed on other countries.
America is a den of self righteous fuckwits.
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If we're lucky, they'll blow up Mar-a-lago.
Imagine if Trump got individually 9/11ed
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Now with AI everywhere, everything is a reboot/mashup slop!
Genuinely seems like 50% of reddit is now bots.
