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The specter of a GTA 6 delay haunts the games industry: 'Some companies are going to tank' if they guess wrong, says analyst

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  • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksE [email protected]

    As an optimist, I expect more expansions like Gay Tony and for them to simply make fun of microtransactions on the radio.

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    Ah, full expansion DLC. That'd be nice.

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      I'd rather wait than buy a console for a single game that will barely hit 720p/30.

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      I think they mean it will never be PC only, so it'd be an infinite wait. Or maybe some future release version will be console only.

      Also, "720p/30" lol

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        Why the rush?

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        I'm with you on not paying full price in general, but they answered your main question before and you didnt acknowledge it.

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          I don't know why but I couldn't give two shits about GTA6, maybe I'm just burned out on AAA games

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          Because it will be full of micro transactions and bullshit content no-one asked for, with anti cheat horseshit that will pretty much be a virus on your computer.

          Sad thing is that it'll still sell millions because most people don't even know when they are being served shit.

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            I'd pay over $100 for GTA6 personally. And microtransactions aren't out of the question for me either. I don't have nearly as much time as money these days. Not that I have a lot of money, but I'll pay it if it makes the experience better

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              I think what you’re saying is true but perhaps you’re both talking about different things. I think you’re speaking about the reality of the situation whereas the comment OP is talking about the risk averse nature of large game studios. I don’t think it’s the same thing.

              Also, I think I’m part of a growing minority but if gta 6 reviews are bad I’m not buying it until I hear it’s been fixed. I’ve been burned so many times 😭

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              I'm buying it regardless of reviews. Which are gonna be amazing anyway but still. I paid full price for Forspoken and actually really enjoyed it. I like the Kojima attitude of (for him it was a bookstore) picking something blindly that calls out to you. It might be amazing, it might be shit, but you learn something from everything you engage with. I just like the surprise of trying something I've got a lukewarm interest in and enjoying it a lot. Horizon Lego Adventures and Lost Records Bloom and Rage impressed me recently

              Course I play games to play them, not complain about them online all day. And most of the time I enjoy what I find

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                that's not true. games can absolutely get fucked by release dates coinciding with big names. and have.

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                The two Horizon games picked really shitty weeks to release on lol. I think that's done significant damage to the player base. They're not groundbreaking games, but still extremely well done (imo)

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                • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                  All they ever did was riff on popular movies, and they were already scraping the bottom of the bin on that with 5. What popular movies in recent times has 6 even got to be inspired by?

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                  Really only Once Upon a Time in Hollywood comes to mind, but it’s not Scarface level popular.

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                    While at one point GTA was my favorite series and I was absolutely hyped for GTA V, I’m not for this one. I kind of feel like I’m getting a little old for GTA.

                    Maybe I’ll change my mind after it releases and there’s a good chance I’ll play it anyway, but right now… meh.

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                      I don’t know about that one. Games are expensive these days and if your game releases anywhere near the rumored $100 GTA 6, a LOT of people are going to have to choose one or the other, and it’s very unlikely that in most cases they don’t choose GTA6, literally the most anticipated video game of the last decade. Sure you can always buy the smaller game later, but a huge part of the sales of video games is the opening week, when all the hype around it has had time to come to a head, and you’re influenced by the fact that lots of other people are playing it.

                      Yeah good games will always sell SOME copies. But if you thinking that a game even releasing in the same month as GTA6 won’t have a permanent impact on that games sales, you’re smoking the reefer.

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                      if you thinking that a game even releasing in the same month as GTA6 won’t have a permanent impact on that games sales, you’re smoking the reefer.

                      Maybe they should stop trying to peddle bland-ass live service games that live and die by their players numbers then. A good solo game might take a hit to its initial sales but should recover in the long run.

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                        I'm the same but I may just be getting older. Last game I was hyped for was Cyberpunk 2077 coming off of the stellar Witcher 3 and having followed both games I loved, W1 & W2. Sometime before it released, I just dropped all hype for it and haven't felt the same after. Haven't even played it yet either.

                        Today, I let myself be pleasantly surprised by games I never thought I'd like. I really liked Death Stranding and I'm waiting for its sequel but still no hype... I haven't even seen the trailer yet and I doubt I will... I'll buy it and go in blindly.

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                        I'm holding out some hope for GTA VI still. Reason being, while Cyberpunk promised to be super duper everything interconnected magic programming to follow an absolutely awesome but technologically realistic game (Witcher 3), I haven't seen hype like that for GTA VI. The expectation is to get a well polished freeroam game with lots of fun toys to play around with, a story that's hopefully long enough to be worth the game's price, and a new Online mode that gets updates over time. Basically GTA V with a new city and a more polished game overall, but no exponential leaps - despite the fact that the budget is much larger than Cyberpunk.

                        But I mean MudRunner is also awesome. Couldn't get into Death Stranding myself, just wasn't feeling it. Should pick up Art of Rally soon. Tons of great AA and indie games out there if GTA VI flops indeed.

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                          if you thinking that a game even releasing in the same month as GTA6 won’t have a permanent impact on that games sales, you’re smoking the reefer.

                          Maybe they should stop trying to peddle bland-ass live service games that live and die by their players numbers then. A good solo game might take a hit to its initial sales but should recover in the long run.

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                          A good solo game might take a hit to its initial sales but should recover in the long run.

                          It won’t though. This feel-good theory that if a game is “good” then it’ll just make the same amount of money it always would have otherwise is not supported by any real world evidence. And even the most hypothetically high quality, ethical, game making company is still a company in the bed, and companies need to money to pay living wages and keep people employed making new games. And if the games they are putting out are high quality, they probably have competent leadership. And competent leadership isn’t going to gamble the future of their company and livelihoods of their employees on an unproven feel-good fantasy espoused only by people on Reddit and Lemmy who’ve never run a business before.

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                            A good solo game might take a hit to its initial sales but should recover in the long run.

                            It won’t though. This feel-good theory that if a game is “good” then it’ll just make the same amount of money it always would have otherwise is not supported by any real world evidence. And even the most hypothetically high quality, ethical, game making company is still a company in the bed, and companies need to money to pay living wages and keep people employed making new games. And if the games they are putting out are high quality, they probably have competent leadership. And competent leadership isn’t going to gamble the future of their company and livelihoods of their employees on an unproven feel-good fantasy espoused only by people on Reddit and Lemmy who’ve never run a business before.

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                            If the game is good, doesnt need an active playerbase to survive (ie isn't entirely based on multiplayer), and the company is already reputable, it has no reasons to not sell decently in the long run. Also if the company's future is jeopardized by a single game not doing well, I'm sorry but it's not well managed. Ask me how I know.

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                              It’s the exact same thing actually. Their claim was:

                              Good games will sell regardless of what’s out

                              But that’s just not true, and game studios of all sizes know that. The risk aversion of these companies exist because of the reality of the situation.

                              It also has nothing to do with a studios confidence in their game. The quality of a game is light years away from being the sole objective indicator of a games sales. The Outer Wilds is objectively one of the greatest games ever made and has no real peers in what it does. And yet it didn’t make nearly the sales numbers as the latest asset flipped Call of Duty game.

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                              The Outer Wilds was a first game from an indie studio. On this basis alone it was practically guaranteed to not get the success it deserved. And it does deserve a ton of it.

                              Conversely, call of duty is literally one of the most notorious franchises in the entire industry, and pretty much sells on its name alone.

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                                I'm buying it regardless of reviews. Which are gonna be amazing anyway but still. I paid full price for Forspoken and actually really enjoyed it. I like the Kojima attitude of (for him it was a bookstore) picking something blindly that calls out to you. It might be amazing, it might be shit, but you learn something from everything you engage with. I just like the surprise of trying something I've got a lukewarm interest in and enjoying it a lot. Horizon Lego Adventures and Lost Records Bloom and Rage impressed me recently

                                Course I play games to play them, not complain about them online all day. And most of the time I enjoy what I find

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                                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity
                                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
                                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

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                                  I'd pay over $100 for GTA6 personally. And microtransactions aren't out of the question for me either. I don't have nearly as much time as money these days. Not that I have a lot of money, but I'll pay it if it makes the experience better

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                                  Comments like yours are why the overwhelming majority of video games these days suck.

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                                    Ah, full expansion DLC. That'd be nice.

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                                    Also, actual singleplayer content would be sweet.

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                                      Comments like yours are why the overwhelming majority of video games these days suck.

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                                      Yup. "Please bend me over and fuck me for all I'm worth, corpo daddy!" type energy. Some people just can't get enough of being exploited.

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                                        Because it will be full of micro transactions and bullshit content no-one asked for, with anti cheat horseshit that will pretty much be a virus on your computer.

                                        Sad thing is that it'll still sell millions because most people don't even know when they are being served shit.

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                                        No doubt it'll also have Denuvo, just to make the game run even worse too.

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                                          If the game is good, doesnt need an active playerbase to survive (ie isn't entirely based on multiplayer), and the company is already reputable, it has no reasons to not sell decently in the long run. Also if the company's future is jeopardized by a single game not doing well, I'm sorry but it's not well managed. Ask me how I know.

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                                          That’s just not how these things work.

                                          Also if an (already established) company's future is jeopardized by a single game not doing well, I'm sorry but it's not well managed. Ask me how I know.

                                          That’s not really here nor there. It also isn’t really true.

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