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  • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

    Because liberals believe in supporting the lesser evil within their own nations. Am I wrong?

    I'm just applying that same principle internationally.

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    Are you applying it as a negative to libs? If so, then my reply stands. You created an argument via propter hoc… and it should be discarded. If you intended something different them you should reword your argument to something more substantial than “libs choose less sucky thing so they should like China.”

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    • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

      Are you applying it as a negative to libs? If so, then my reply stands. You created an argument via propter hoc… and it should be discarded. If you intended something different them you should reword your argument to something more substantial than “libs choose less sucky thing so they should like China.”

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      I'm pretty sure that falacy applies to events and improperly assigning cause i.e. if Y followed X, then X caused Y

      I think you're just using it wrong.

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        Go to China then and be happy.

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        I lived there for four years. For me the bad outweighed the good.

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        • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

          A random Chinese entrepreneur isn't really representative of China?

          Maybe China will prove it's just as evil as the West, but it hasn't so far. Insisting it inevitably will is just speculation, because the Chinese development banks that loan to the third world are less evil than the IMF/World Bank, and the Belt and Road initiative is less evil than Western free trade agreements.

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          Not sure how do you measure evil.

          The only thing I’m certain is they are newer player in the colonizing game, so the accumulated damage is less than Europeans.

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          • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

            China is the lesser evil.

            Don't you liberals believe in supporting the lesser evil?

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            The dissonance of someone with queer in their name being an advocate for the CCP.....Jesus Christ

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            • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

              China is the lesser evil.

              Don't you liberals believe in supporting the lesser evil?

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              cant think of China as the lesser evil when they keep harassing Philippine vessels in Philippine waters.

              @[email protected]

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              • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                China is the lesser evil.

                Don't you liberals believe in supporting the lesser evil?

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                Pretty ironic for someone named queermunist to support a regime which has openly made anti-queer remarks and anti-queer legislation.

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                • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                  A random Chinese entrepreneur isn't really representative of China?

                  Maybe China will prove it's just as evil as the West, but it hasn't so far. Insisting it inevitably will is just speculation, because the Chinese development banks that loan to the third world are less evil than the IMF/World Bank, and the Belt and Road initiative is less evil than Western free trade agreements.

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                  If China is so great, why does it have so many billionaires?

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                  • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                    China is the lesser evil.

                    Don't you liberals believe in supporting the lesser evil?

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                    It is funny how you guys always becomes complete fans of the "lesser evil". As if it is not actually considered the "lesser evil" by you, but "the absolute best and most fantastic thing that exists".

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                    • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                      China is the lesser evil.

                      Don't you liberals believe in supporting the lesser evil?

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                      Eesti piir käib vastu hiina müüri! lennubaas everesti tippus!

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                      • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                        China is the lesser evil.

                        Don't you liberals believe in supporting the lesser evil?

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                        Go ask the Uyghurs if they also think China is the lesser evil.

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                          Go ask the Uyghurs if they also think China is the lesser evil.

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                          I have, most of them don't consider it evil at all. Funny how Westerners always say "go ask people living there" when they absolutely mean "trust the West"

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                            It is funny how you guys always becomes complete fans of the "lesser evil". As if it is not actually considered the "lesser evil" by you, but "the absolute best and most fantastic thing that exists".

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                            Which is exactly how the liberals who talk about "lesser evil" feel about the democratic party

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                              Pretty ironic for someone named queermunist to support a regime which has openly made anti-queer remarks and anti-queer legislation.

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                              And it's objectively better to queer people than much of the West. Fuck I hate western liberals using us as a shield for their bigotry. Just like how you say "Hamas is homophobic!" to justify killing every one in Gaza, including the queer people

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                                cant think of China as the lesser evil when they keep harassing Philippine vessels in Philippine waters.

                                @[email protected]

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                                Yeah man, that's much worse than anything the West is doing....

                                Do you people hear yourselves?

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                                  Go to China then and be happy.

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                                  "If you don't love America, you can geeeeeet ouuuuut".

                                  Modern liberals are just Bush era conservatives

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                                  • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                                    Literally Orientalism.

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                                    I fucking hate the word orientalism. We look like that. We eat funny stuff. We dress weird. As long as there's no hate you can fucking laugh at it.

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                                      Oh, I've mostly stopped arguing with tankies. I'm just trolling a little at this point.

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                                      I appreciate that but if you troll them with dumb takes and bad faith arguments, you are only strengthening their views and making them look smarter

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                                        "If you don't love America, you can geeeeeet ouuuuut".

                                        Modern liberals are just Bush era conservatives

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                                        Why do you make this about america?

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                                          Lol, you literally couldn't even wait for them to respond before trying to get your come back in

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