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    If you saw this on the street wouldn't you call the cops? I fucking would. From somewhere on the far side of the van, well out of their line of sight.

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      I am curious to see how many incidentscome out where there are of ACTUAL kidnappings that happen because some geniuses get the idea to just go grab some people and throw them in a van while dressing up like these ICE idiots.

      You want to give gangs a free pass to grab random people or rivals off the street? Make your "official govt activity" look like gang activity.

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      It may already be happening in immigrant communities. What are their families going to do - report it to the cops?

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      • M [email protected]

        Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses

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        I always thought "some" was being too charitable.

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        • G [email protected]

          Send this to your MAGA relatives with the caption "these guys good or bad?" and no additional context.

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          Seem to be all white, obviously good

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          • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

            Lookin' like a group of pedos handing out "free candy."

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            Pedophiles and hebephiles are probably having a field day with this new immigration policy. Apparently you can just snatch people off the street while saying the magic words "I'm with law enforcement" and no consequences will come of it.

            Would not be surprised to learn down the road that dozens of people have been kidnapped and are being held somewhere other than an El Salvadorian gulag having who knows what done to them.

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              Someone needs to walk by with the Vanilla Ice "Ice Ice Baby" song playing.

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                There is absolutely no proof that these people are ICE, or any other agents of the state. Do not assume masked strangers throwing people in vehicles are law enforcement. Especially if they don't identify themselves.

                We all need to stop making this assumption, and to start encouraging others to also not make this assumption.

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                I get what you mean. But, materially, there is not much of a difference. You should absolutely do everything in your power to stop or resist them.

                They are Nazis with a badge or Nazis without a badge. That badge doesn't change what should be done to them by anyone that sees them. They should not feel safe getting out of their van. There are more of us. Get organized and be ready to be that 2nd or 3rd or 4th random stranger that is brave enough to standup to them.

                Nazi's aren't brave. They are wimpy little losers. That's why they are Nazis. Don't let them feel safe anywhere they go.

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                  how does no one shoot them

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                    My favorite so far is the people who follow these fuckers around with megaphones and broadcast the rights people have when dealing with ICE, numbers of local lawyers and advocates, and other instructions to help people either avoid the interaction or at least have a fighting chance to due process if they are detained.

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                    Absolutely. They should be afraid to get out of their van. They should be treated as if they are wearing a Nazi uniform.

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                      What would be better is if, when people were being kidnapped by these brownshirts-at-home, the bystanders started beating these kidnappers to a bloody, gelatinous pulp. That way, the street sweepers could come and gently push their mouldering viscera where they belong: the gutter.

                      Remember: there is no evidence that these people have the force of law behind them. Citizens should not allow others to be kidnapped in broad daylight.

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                      Absolutely. Numbers have power too. If you happen to be around when this happens do not let the eyes of those around you turn the other way.

                      Everyone is waiting for someone to say something. But no one has said anything so we all think "well, I guess I don't know the whole story because no one ELSE is doing anything". It's quite a well documented human group behavior.

                      You need to be that first voice. You need to shake everyone else out of that thought. Because you know exactly what it is. It's scary to be that first or second person to speak up.

                      But another well documented human behavior is that when someone goes to help, others join in, they get shaken out of their "freeze" and decide to fight.

                      Our society isn't broken enough yet for people not to care when someone is being kidnapped. They just need you to call it what it is.

                      Just keep calling "ICE" liars. If they try to say they are federal agents just keep saying they are lying. Do everything to delay until you have enough support to make them feel afraid. Again, they are Nazis. They are not brave. They are scared little losers. Don't let them feel safe to get out of their black vans.

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                      • M [email protected]

                        Not even remotely hyperbolic here, I 100% would assume they’re randos gang members or doing criminality attempting to kidnap then murder me, and I’d fight back accordingly. Not even a badge on a neck chain or belt clip jfc covered head to toe

                        Just the same as if a mugging becomes “get into the van” no you fucking shouldn’t because their goals are now no longer your property, but now your life

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                        This is what random crimes taking place look like in Spiderman

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                          Just being honest. If someone in mask comes to my car, I'm pulling away. If you are caught by a wheel, then it's on you. Identify who you are.

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                            Wait, that's how they're actually dressed? They just look like random people. The fact that they don't get shot more speaks a lot about how well behaved the people they are kidnapping are.

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                            dont you guys have an amendment that allows you to shoot such militia?

                            for self defense against a rogue state and shit?

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                              Call 911

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                              • B [email protected]

                                *Allegedly ICE

                                Those could totally just be plain old kidnappers

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                                Yeah, that's what "ICE" is.

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                                  Fucking fascists

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                                    Masked, no badge. That's a good way to get yourself shot.

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                                    Hopefully.

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                                    • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zoneU [email protected]

                                      There are some pepper sprays that are mixed with red difficult-to-remove dye for the purpose of identifying those involved in an incident.

                                      Legal in California!

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                                      Oo gimme link. I want

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                                        Or four.

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                                        Rule #2. Double tap.

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                                          Just being honest. If someone in mask comes to my car, I'm pulling away. If you are caught by a wheel, then it's on you. Identify who you are.

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                                          They wouldn't hide their face if what they were doing wasn't shameful

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