That's an impressive drop. Any ideas why?
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It says 1990 not 1900!
You think 1990 where a time of full consent and awareness about other sensitivities? Oh boy.
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I find computers endlessly fascinating and they are easier to understand than social interactions. If you took away easier forms of entertainment I would be seeking harder forms of entertainment. Probably also starting a revolution.
Do you think we will ever get to the point of "virtual sex" when you can experience something better than the real thing?
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You think 1990 where a time of full consent and awareness about other sensitivities? Oh boy.
Things were definitely different to today, but I think the factors you listed are not enough to explain the massive decline in that graph.
Things like economic insecurity, cost of housing, increasing isolation / changes in living circumstances, and medication are all likely to be significant factors in my opinion.
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I was warming up the down vote finger so hard until I saw the /s. Got me good.
Yeah, it's just so sad that it's believable some people genuinely hold that view
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think about the wild and unnecessary risk they’re taking and how they’ll regret it functionally forever
hmm what? Unless I missed a very big part of this, you're not dropping a percentage of your soul when you have sex, it usually conclude with a good shower, and if you were not cautious at all with protection, a pill.
You're not doing it right.
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World of Warcraft
There's a considerable uptick just before 2010, so WoW players must've been having lots of sex during WotLK years
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What would be your first few steps in starting the revolution?
Organizing. Building community.
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Do you think we will ever get to the point of "virtual sex" when you can experience something better than the real thing?
Maybe, with genetic modification. I think sex has the knobs maxed out for our current chemistry.
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People are just not very attractive nowadays
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Nah its going to rock bottom
Maybe that's the problem. A lot of the ladies I know say that sort of thing is uncomfortable.
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Women are avoiding men. For all sorts of reasons that I think most of you are aware of.
Women also are feeling like they have the ability to refuse when before they didn't.
Women are also scared of pregnancy in a way they haven't been since the fecking 1900s.
Because now, you get pregnant. A doctor will let you die before they will provide medical care if that medical care has any chance of harming a fetus. Even if the fetus is dead.
Women are dying from pregnancy.
Women are no longer able to terminate an early pregnancy safely.Women are scared.
Yeah uhm....women would be the ones loosing here not men....
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Yeah uhm....women would be the ones loosing here not men....
I mean what? Women will just resign themselves to being femcels forever?
That sounds depressing, even more than being resigned to being a male incel
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There's a considerable uptick just before 2010, so WoW players must've been having lots of sex during WotLK years
From a top raid trainer at the time, "Knock down drag-out fight, killed 'em and looted 'em. Finally log off at the end of the raid, and?' WoW Players in WotLK say, 'Tough fight. Boss is down, I'm alive. Finally get to bed at the end of the run, and?' They all say, 'The best sex I've had in months."
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The awareness is relatively recent. "The woman place is in the kitchen" is not an old thing.
Perhaps there is a comfort in expressing these beliefs now when before there was not?
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I'm not saying people don't have sex as they get older (though there is ample evidence out there that they tend to have less). I'm saying that women are less likely to put up with a broke ass older man than a young stud. As you get older you become more prized as a breadwinner than you do as just a toy boy.
Ah, okay, I didn't see that from the comment tree. I don't think that's gender specific though; if anything, women seem even more likely to be rejected due to age than men. And there's also other confounding factors with age: as your cohort ages, they get paired off, and have less time to devote to dating, and do have a somewhat decreased sex drive pushing them out there. So the dating pool is quite a bit smaller - even if your looks didn't diminish, it likely won't carry you as far as your dating pool ages regardless of economic factors.
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My wife and I go through hot & cold spells. I think we have similar drives, but our timing doesn't always match up. I'm more of a "harness the power of the morning wood" sort of fellow. She's more of a "I want it right now but he's still at work" sort of gal. We both talk a big game, but work, childcare and adulting conspire against us.
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think about the wild and unnecessary risk they’re taking and how they’ll regret it functionally forever
hmm what? Unless I missed a very big part of this, you're not dropping a percentage of your soul when you have sex, it usually conclude with a good shower, and if you were not cautious at all with protection, a pill.
The pill isn't your choice and soon they'll take the pill away entirely to shore up the numbers of the working class but you end up footing the bill, for life. At least it does give purpose to the endless busywork that you have to do to pay for the mistake of intimacy.
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Probably depression, online dating ruining the entire dating world, and the economy sucking.
I remember growing up, you could go to a bar with friends, meet some people and there was always someone hooking up quickly.
Or you grabbed a phone number and you were good for later.Now it's more "are you 6 foot tall?" "do you make six figures?" "what's your snap or insta?" "are you a racist nazi that will murder me in my sleep?"
Then they can always say, ehhh, your not attractive enough for me, i'll go on tinder and DM one of the 60 guys waiting for me. BYEEEEEEEE
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Perhaps there is a comfort in expressing these beliefs now when before there was not?
That is what I thought I said, yes.
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People are just not very attractive nowadays
I blame the GenZ broccoli haircut.
