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  • nutomic@lemmy.mlN This user is from outside of this forum
    nutomic@lemmy.mlN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #9

    What exactly do you mean with parallel federation and queues backed up? There is such a feature but only a single case that requires it, which is federation from lemmy.world to aussie.zone. NodeBB wont be affected by that.

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    • projectmoonP projectmoon

      I've successfully managed to find and track https://sh.itjust.works/c/localllama from my instance. But when I try, for example, https://lemmy.world/c/technology, I can't find anything. These Lemmy communities DO, however, show up as users on my NodeBB instance. Is there something I'm doing wrong? I tried going directly to /category/@[email protected] too.

      julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
      julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #10

      @[email protected] have you tried navigating directly to the url without the preceding @? It isn't required (for NodeBB).

      In cases where the category is currently a user, you'll have to put the whole handle into the search box and execute the search, the category will then be migrated from the user.

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        Not specifically that URL, no. Now I just tried it. It resulted in a deadlock in Postgres. 😄

        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933614676Z 2025-04-08 12:42:10.933 UTC [32590] DETAIL:  Process 32590 waits for ShareLock on transaction 35424413; blocked by process 32626.
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933621228Z 	Process 32626 waits for ShareLock on transaction 35424434; blocked by process 32590.
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933624695Z 	Process 32590: 
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933626920Z 	INSERT INTO "legacy_object" ("_key", "type")
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933629244Z 	SELECT k, $2::TEXT::LEGACY_OBJECT_TYPE
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933631398Z 	  FROM UNNEST($1::TEXT[]) k
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933633432Z 	    ON CONFLICT
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933635396Z 	    DO NOTHING
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933637329Z 	Process 32626: 
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933639423Z 	INSERT INTO "legacy_object" ("_key", "type")
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933641588Z 	SELECT k, $2::TEXT::LEGACY_OBJECT_TYPE
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933643603Z 	  FROM UNNEST($1::TEXT[]) k
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933645586Z 	    ON CONFLICT
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933647519Z 	    DO NOTHING
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933654783Z 2025-04-08 12:42:10.933 UTC [32590] HINT:  See server log for query details.
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933656978Z 2025-04-08 12:42:10.933 UTC [32590] CONTEXT:  while inserting index tuple (6227,69) in relation "legacy_object"
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933659042Z 2025-04-08 12:42:10.933 UTC [32590] STATEMENT:  
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933660966Z 	INSERT INTO "legacy_object" ("_key", "type")
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933663000Z 	SELECT k, $2::TEXT::LEGACY_OBJECT_TYPE
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933664863Z 	  FROM UNNEST($1::TEXT[]) k
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933666666Z 	    ON CONFLICT
        2025-04-08T12:42:10.933668430Z 	    DO NOTHING
        
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          #12

          After restarting NodeBB, I can load the category, though. Maybe some deadlock on initial import of the community.

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          • projectmoonP projectmoon

            After restarting NodeBB, I can load the category, though. Maybe some deadlock on initial import of the community.

            julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
            julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #13

            😬

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            • nutomic@lemmy.mlN [email protected]

              What exactly do you mean with parallel federation and queues backed up? There is such a feature but only a single case that requires it, which is federation from lemmy.world to aussie.zone. NodeBB wont be affected by that.

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              #14

              @[email protected] Mostly what I've observed is significant instances of timing out when trying to find communities on new instances from non-Lemmy-based websites, something that hasn't been notable from Lemmy-to-Lemmy first encounters.

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              • fitik@fedia.ioF This user is from outside of this forum
                fitik@fedia.ioF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #15

                Great to see! Existed to see better interoperability between Threadiverse software! Will be cool to see NodeBB users posting in Lemmy/Mbin/Piefed communities

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                • nutomic@lemmy.mlN This user is from outside of this forum
                  nutomic@lemmy.mlN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #16

                  In principle that sounds like a problem with NodeBB or other platforms you are using. Lemmy doesnt do anything special to fetch remote communities. But if you notice any error responses served by Lemmy you can open an issue.

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                  • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #17

                    I just realized that while we now have the ability to browse and follow remote communities, we don't have a page listing communities ordered by popularity or recency... time to add to my ever expanding list 😩

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                      Is it also possible to add remote communities to the main forum list? Or merge them into existing local categories?

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                      • projectmoonP projectmoon

                        Is it also possible to add remote communities to the main forum list? Or merge them into existing local categories?

                        julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #19

                        Right now you're able to add remote categories to your world page. It's possible that we could allow admins to add remote categories to the forum index, although that'd be something we add later on.

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                          I'm seeing issues with loading remote categories. I can't load the NodeBB bug reports category at all, and for the ActivityPub category, I can find it in my world category search, but I get a 404 when trying to load it. Also can't load [email protected] for example.

                          It seems the NodeBB development board is the only one really federating for me. Any way I can solve this?

                          I am running beta2 of 4.3.0.

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                          • projectmoonP projectmoon

                            I'm seeing issues with loading remote categories. I can't load the NodeBB bug reports category at all, and for the ActivityPub category, I can find it in my world category search, but I get a 404 when trying to load it. Also can't load [email protected] for example.

                            It seems the NodeBB development board is the only one really federating for me. Any way I can solve this?

                            I am running beta2 of 4.3.0.

                            julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                            julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #21

                            @[email protected] hmm... could be a bug in the user migration code path.

                            Can you run your forum in dev mode (./nodebb dev) and try to load some of the categories here in your forum, and let me know if you see any errors in the console?

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                            • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ [email protected]

                              @[email protected] hmm... could be a bug in the user migration code path.

                              Can you run your forum in dev mode (./nodebb dev) and try to load some of the categories here in your forum, and let me know if you see any errors in the console?

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                              #22

                              @[email protected] could not run it in dev mode directly because of docker compose, but did set NODE_ENV to development and got verbose logs. Only thing that shows up is:

                              2025-05-03T19:35:59.553Z [4567/53] - warn: Route requested but not found: /category/[email protected]
                              
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                                So, this URL does work: https://forum.agnos.is/category/[email protected]

                                Maybe it has something to do with the activitypub category being a sub-category of nodebb development?

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                                • projectmoonP projectmoon

                                  So, this URL does work: https://forum.agnos.is/category/[email protected]

                                  Maybe it has something to do with the activitypub category being a sub-category of nodebb development?

                                  julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                  julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @[email protected] no, that didn't matter. There is no concept of nested categories in ActivityPub yet.

                                  But the issue seems legitimate, I can't access the ActivityPub category from a test Mastodon server either.

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                                  • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ [email protected]

                                    @[email protected] no, that didn't matter. There is no concept of nested categories in ActivityPub yet.

                                    But the issue seems legitimate, I can't access the ActivityPub category from a test Mastodon server either.

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                                    #25

                                    @[email protected] I was able to access it from a Lemmy instance. So it is federating, at least partly. But interesting to know that Mastodon has issues with it...

                                    One thing that might be helpful is that NodeBB gives an invalid ID error when trying to follow the category via the sync function in admin settings. Stack trace shows it's the error being thrown when trying to follow (activitypub.js line 43).

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                                    • projectmoonP projectmoon

                                      @[email protected] I was able to access it from a Lemmy instance. So it is federating, at least partly. But interesting to know that Mastodon has issues with it...

                                      One thing that might be helpful is that NodeBB gives an invalid ID error when trying to follow the category via the sync function in admin settings. Stack trace shows it's the error being thrown when trying to follow (activitypub.js line 43).

                                      julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                      julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @[email protected] thanks, can you try again? For whatever reason the handle-to-cid association was lost, and I'm not sure why. I've manually restored it now.

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                                        #27

                                        Yep, shows up now on my end. Maybe check other categories too?

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                                        • projectmoonP projectmoon

                                          Yep, shows up now on my end. Maybe check other categories too?

                                          julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                          julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #28

                                          Were there other categories breaking?

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