Fediverse, one account for everything?
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Very complicated all this Fediverse stuff! Far from the dream of having one account for everything, I seemed to need an account on every service to get the whole picture. I have now Nodebb, Mastodon, Lemmy, PixelFed and Peertube!
I dont know if Im just not using it properly, or if seeing everything from any one of these site is even possible?
@julian how far off is the prospect of using my nodebb account for all Federated chat, is that even achievable in long term? -
Very complicated all this Fediverse stuff! Far from the dream of having one account for everything, I seemed to need an account on every service to get the whole picture. I have now Nodebb, Mastodon, Lemmy, PixelFed and Peertube!
I dont know if Im just not using it properly, or if seeing everything from any one of these site is even possible?
@julian how far off is the prospect of using my nodebb account for all Federated chat, is that even achievable in long term?@eeeee
From this website, you can follow almost any user account you want on almost any Mastodon-, Lemmy-, mbin-, PixelFed-, Misskey- (and its forks), Hometown-, Friendica-, Hubzilla-, or Mitra-based website, barring a few minor obstacles (neither side needs to have blocked the other, neither side needs to have disabled federation, and the user you're following needs to have not blocked you). You can also follow groups like Lemmy communities, or Guppe groups.There's really no need to have accounts on all platforms. Not unless you want to have separation between what you post, or want the variation in UX that comes with all of these different pieces of software focusing on different core experiences.
What's important to know is that they work via syndication -- content is mirrored across the network, not viewed insitu -- and that syndication doesn't occur without prompting. So, you need to go through the steps of entering a remote user or group's url or full account address ([email protected]) in order to fetch content, and that content, by and large, is not backfilled.
If you can accept these limitations, then a single Mastodon, mbin, nodeBB, etc. account is all you need.
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From this website, you can follow almost any user account you want on almost any Mastodon-, Lemmy-, mbin-, PixelFed-, Misskey- (and its forks), Hometown-, Friendica-, Hubzilla-, or Mitra-based website, barring a few minor obstacles (neither side needs to have blocked the other, neither side needs to have disabled federation, and the user you're following needs to have not blocked you). You can also follow groups like Lemmy communities, or Guppe groups.There's really no need to have accounts on all platforms. Not unless you want to have separation between what you post, or want the variation in UX that comes with all of these different pieces of software focusing on different core experiences.
What's important to know is that they work via syndication -- content is mirrored across the network, not viewed insitu -- and that syndication doesn't occur without prompting. So, you need to go through the steps of entering a remote user or group's url or full account address ([email protected]) in order to fetch content, and that content, by and large, is not backfilled.
If you can accept these limitations, then a single Mastodon, mbin, nodeBB, etc. account is all you need.
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@julian "We're making a super cool product that's adopting this space" tends to go over well in the Fediverse, yeah. We love being catered to with cool toys and tools!
And good God do I miss real forums, after a decade on Reddit.
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Very complicated all this Fediverse stuff! Far from the dream of having one account for everything, I seemed to need an account on every service to get the whole picture. I have now Nodebb, Mastodon, Lemmy, PixelFed and Peertube!
I dont know if Im just not using it properly, or if seeing everything from any one of these site is even possible?
@julian how far off is the prospect of using my nodebb account for all Federated chat, is that even achievable in long term?Ok, if I can give specific example. I found a community via lemmy which is interesting.
@[email protected]
If I want to post a topic in it, can I make a nodebb post and send it there? -
Ok, if I can give specific example. I found a community via lemmy which is interesting.
@[email protected]
If I want to post a topic in it, can I make a nodebb post and send it there?@eeeee I'm not actually sure about it, but I think all you have to do is mention the community.
In fact, you did in your reply, and I don't actually know what would happen normally. Perhaps it has to be a root post.
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Very complicated all this Fediverse stuff! Far from the dream of having one account for everything, I seemed to need an account on every service to get the whole picture. I have now Nodebb, Mastodon, Lemmy, PixelFed and Peertube!
I dont know if Im just not using it properly, or if seeing everything from any one of these site is even possible?
@julian how far off is the prospect of using my nodebb account for all Federated chat, is that even achievable in long term?Ok I tried this as as a root post
It didnt get there.
Whereas I can post into that community with my similar named lemm.ee account -
Very complicated all this Fediverse stuff! Far from the dream of having one account for everything, I seemed to need an account on every service to get the whole picture. I have now Nodebb, Mastodon, Lemmy, PixelFed and Peertube!
I dont know if Im just not using it properly, or if seeing everything from any one of these site is even possible?
@julian how far off is the prospect of using my nodebb account for all Federated chat, is that even achievable in long term?.. in [email protected] group nothing arrived
There is a post I made earlier (using [email protected]) but not this latest one from isurg@nodebb
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.. in [email protected] group nothing arrived
There is a post I made earlier (using [email protected]) but not this latest one from isurg@nodebb
@eeeee Thanks, can you open an issue about this? I'll have to see what Lemmy expects for a new submission.
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@eeeee Thanks, can you open an issue about this? I'll have to see what Lemmy expects for a new submission.
@julian I tested out a root post that mentioned a PieFed community, and it got there okay - it's viewable at https://pythag.net/c/sci_fi (and federated out okay to another PieFed instance at https://palaver.p3x.de/c/[email protected])
My guess as to why Lemmy might not like it is that the activity contains:
"audience": "https://community.nodebb.org/category/-1"It looks like Lemmy tries to fetch that and can't parse the response.
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@julian I tested out a root post that mentioned a PieFed community, and it got there okay - it's viewable at https://pythag.net/c/sci_fi (and federated out okay to another PieFed instance at https://palaver.p3x.de/c/[email protected])
My guess as to why Lemmy might not like it is that the activity contains:
"audience": "https://community.nodebb.org/category/-1"It looks like Lemmy tries to fetch that and can't parse the response.
@freamon oh! You're right on the money.
For whatever reason, Lemmy always checks
audienceeven though it doesn't need to.I brought this up for discussion in their github, and it resulted in @[email protected] removing parsing of
audiencealtogether!So this might actually be a moot point once more Lemmy instances update, but I am not 100% sure.
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I still cant post into a community on Lemmy. Ive had more tries and looked at other posts which are going in. It seems they are directed in there somehow, not just by mentioning the group in the post.
@julian did you get any idea on this? -
@eeeee it is likely due to
audience.So, what happens on your end is you make a topic and mention the Lemmy community.
When NodeBB federates that post out, the Lemmy community is included in the mentions, but it also specifies your category 18, World Chat, in
audience.If Lemmy sees that, and it doesn't know about that community already, it will drop the activity immediately. If it does, then it will likely slot the post into the "World Chat on isurg.com" community on that Lemmy instance.
Lemmy removed
audiencechecking, so this might be a non-issue. Once that Lemmy instance updates to the latest version, it'll hopefully post to the correct community.That's a tricky one, though, because which community should it post to?
- "Medicine" on mander.xyz, or
- "World Chat" on isurg.com?
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Ok but I also referenced @[email protected] and that didnt get a notification either
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I get your dilema about should it post in world or in [email protected]
So if I want it to go in mander@xyz how to specify that? -
I get your dilema about should it post in world or in [email protected]
So if I want it to go in mander@xyz how to specify that?@eeeee You wait for me to overhaul the entire
/world/category UX so that you can "browse" to @[email protected] from your NodeBB itself.
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That sounds good
