I'm doing my part💪
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Death sentence is barbaric and stupid though
wrote last edited by [email protected]Only because the state cannot (demonstrably so) execute justice in a just and equitable manner. Frankly, it'd be fucking dumb to be against the death penalty if (IF) the state could guarantee that the correct person is correctly judged for the correct offense.
Of course that reality is a loooong ways away from this reality, so... death penalty remains a path for the state to unjustly murder innocents. Though IMO, locking innocent people up for the majority of their life is still a gross misjustice akin to the death penalty being executed on an innocent person, but baby steps I guess.
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Explain how that's makes it better.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I did NOT say or imply that it makes anything better.
In fact, expanding the pool of potential abusers to those that just want power over others makes it worse.
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To be fair, paraphilias were listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders as disorders before that definition was moved in DSM-5 to paraphilic disorder to be distinct from paraphilia (no longer de facto a disorder).
Anyway, pedophilia is a paraphilic disorder, which makes it a paraphilia and a mental disorder!
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Miss me with that American junk
But with the same logic, would you also say that gender incongruence is a mental disorder? It's in the same books, in similar sections. It's faux pas to call something a mental disorder without focusing on why it'd be that.The ICD (and I would hope the DSM) focuses mostly on the distress the patient gets from their condition. Someone's attraction to kids, without any actions, isn't enough to get diagnosed, as it's simply a paraphilia. If they're distressed by it, or act out, then it's a diagnostic criteria and something they'd be able to get treatment for.
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DSM
Miss me with that American junk
But with the same logic, would you also say that gender incongruence is a mental disorder? It's in the same books, in similar sections. It's faux pas to call something a mental disorder without focusing on why it'd be that.The ICD (and I would hope the DSM) focuses mostly on the distress the patient gets from their condition. Someone's attraction to kids, without any actions, isn't enough to get diagnosed, as it's simply a paraphilia. If they're distressed by it, or act out, then it's a diagnostic criteria and something they'd be able to get treatment for.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Gender incongruence may be in the same book now, but being in the book does not necessarily mean it is a disorder (e.g. paraphilia). In fact, in DSM-5, gender incongruence (they call it gender dysphoria) was actually renamed from "gender identity disorder" to avoid the word "disorder".
DSM-5 defines a paraphilic disorder as "a paraphilia that brings distress, or when satisfied, brings harm to self or others" (paraphrased). I think pedophilia fits that description, because "if satisfied", that's what we'd consider "bringing harm to others". Perhaps the ICD has a different definition?
I mean, I didn't set the standards or write the books. All of these things have way too much complexity to properly categorize in the ever-shifting standards of society in different geographic and cultural regions, so of course different countries and different experts would treat these things differently. That also means what counts as a "mental disorder" can vary wildly from region to region. I daresay this is a universe where you and I are both right on the matter!
I'm not sure about the criterion differences between the ICD and DSM-5, and I for sure do not know enough to be an authority on the matter.
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Either satire, extremely un-self-aware, or you're tacitly admitting to defending pedophiles. At least a certain pedo...
A bad joke may just be a joke, but it's also just bad.
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It's a sad moment in time, this is a political post
it's not politics.
it's sparkling corruption.
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I've seen too much right-wing LGBT = pedophilia propaganda to jump at this one.
Yeah. The criminal justice system doesn't always get it right, but it's still a better system than anyone being able to have anyone else lynched by calling them a pedo on unsafe evidence.
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A bad joke may just be a joke, but it's also just bad.
I thought it was quite funny, and very obviously a joke.
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I heckin' love the state's monopoly on violence!
I feel like the phrase "state monopoly on violence" has so many loaded words in it that people see it and assume it's a bad thing by definition, when in fact it describes a cornerstone of all civilized society.
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What about capitalist, pedophile nazis?
Thanks to the brave, strong internet tough guys at lemmy who totally aren't pathetic losers overcompensating for something, we have such brilliant hits as
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Who are these 64 people downvoting
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Who are these 64 people downvoting
TIL there are 64 pedos in lemmy
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Child sexual abuse triggers me into a violent rage as that is how I stopped my abusers as a child. No human scares me. Please do not harm children or the world will be full of violence. But also I agree with the comments saying pedophilia is a mental disorder. Also I do not condone violence against them. Please just stop abusing children.
You're a pedo in treatment and never touched a child, good.
You're a pedo who touched children, no more empathy, go straight to hell.
You're a pedo and the president of the USA? Time to burn the system to the ground
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You're a pedo in treatment and never touched a child, good.
You're a pedo who touched children, no more empathy, go straight to hell.
You're a pedo and the president of the USA? Time to burn the system to the ground
Fuck the system.
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Fuck the system.
Only if the system concents and is 18+
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TIL there are 64 pedos in lemmy
Pedophiles should be prosecuted in a court of law.
Also, The Bad Place's shitposting used this as an angle to recruit dummies into the right. Start with a popular statement and then link pedos to LGBT people etc. How subtle the rhetoric is varies, it frequently wasn't very.
Letting Lemmy develop the same self-righteous and performative circle jerk just isn't a great idea... Not that's it stopped any of the other circle jerking.
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I thought it was quite funny, and very obviously a joke.
Couldn't have been more obvious
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Idk man. People who are obsessed about "killing pedophiles" and wears a "shoot your local pedophile" t-shirt are, more often than not, extrememly right-wing anti-LGBT neo-nazis and think leftists and drag queens are, somehow, "pedophiles".
Pizzagate all over again.
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Child sexual abuse triggers me into a violent rage as that is how I stopped my abusers as a child. No human scares me. Please do not harm children or the world will be full of violence. But also I agree with the comments saying pedophilia is a mental disorder. Also I do not condone violence against them. Please just stop abusing children.
wrote last edited by [email protected]As someone who have been a victim of (non-sexual) child abuse, this is just extremely infuriating since I know what they go through, but what they go through is 100x worse. Horrible people like my parents just won't die soon enough. I hope my parents and those on the epstein list spend an eternity in hell.
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Pedophiles should be prosecuted in a court of law.
Also, The Bad Place's shitposting used this as an angle to recruit dummies into the right. Start with a popular statement and then link pedos to LGBT people etc. How subtle the rhetoric is varies, it frequently wasn't very.
Letting Lemmy develop the same self-righteous and performative circle jerk just isn't a great idea... Not that's it stopped any of the other circle jerking.
So, after the first line i totally agree with you
But about that girst line: a lot of pedophiles either are, or are above, the law. So they can't be meaningfulky prosecuted.
