I know Phones dont listen but....
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Your fellow competitors did not neccesarily perform the search when they were at the pub. It could be a the john when they got home. Your dataprofile is still tied to them right now.
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I am convinced they do listen. I have had 2 instances og this. Once I was talking with my mom about some new bedsheets and covers. She later went to the store and sent me a picture to see if it's okay. I later got an add for the exact same bedsheets and covers.
Had another similar thing when I got an add for some stuff we were just talking about with some people. Cannot remember what specifically.
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Again, not my device personally
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Exactly. Phones have dedicated hardware that stores the trigger word and wakes up the OS when it detects it.
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Exactly. I only read about it in combination with the court case but yes, this is the underlying situation iirc.
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It would be pretty easy to test, too.
Get a pre-paid phone. Set up a brand-new Google or Apple account. Activate phone using the new account. Put it through its paces for a few hours and note the ads you get.
Shoot the shit with your friends and family with the phone on the table for a few hours.
Put the phone through its paces again and note the ads you get.
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AI acceleration ASICs are already in a lot of hardware these days. It doesn't take a whole lot anymore for it to be both cheap and feasible.
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Well shit. That makes a lot of sense.
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Somehow I find this much worse.
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Phones absolutely listen. But they probably process the speech locally, unless there’s a trigger word flagged, and send mostly text.
But then it was found Google would upload the audio when a zipper sound was heard, so who knows how often your triggering spy conditions.
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so it’s listening, but it’s not recording/saving/processing anything until it hears the trigger phrase.
I think this is the part I hold issue with. How can you catch the right fish, unless you're routinely casting your fishing net?
I agree that the processing/battery cost of this process is small, but I do think that they're not just throwing away the other fish, but putting them into specific baskets.
I hold no issue with the rest of your comment
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Phones abaolutely do listen, but not to audio via the mic. When Apple and Google tell you they respect your privacy, they mean they don't harvest data directly from a live feed of the mic nor camera; they still scan your files in some cases, and they harvest your browsing history, and read your text messages metadata, and check your youtube watch history, and scan your contacts, and check your location, and harvest hundreds of other litttle tiny data points that don't seem like much but add up to a big profile of you and your behavior and psyche.
So your friend was at a pub quiz with a couple dozen other people, and his phone knew where he was and who was nearby. A statistically significant portion of the people there were not privacy conscious and googled "Lord of the Rings runtime" or something similar. All that data got harvested by Google and Apple, and processed, and then the most recent and fitting entry from some master list of customers' sites' articles was pushed to all their newsfeeds.
Humans don't understand intuitively how much information is being processed through nonverbal means at any given time, and that's the disconnect large companies exploit when they say misleading things like "noooo, your phone isn't listening to you."
But it's totally not privacy invasive, because at no point along the line did a human view your data (/s)
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My fairphone even SHOWED me the mic was running, in the top banner. Sure enough, google had accessed my mic that minute, clearly stated in the settings. I've turned it off since, but I don't trust that. I'll have to get around to switching to calyx.
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Phones are spyware by definition
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Well neither dies the cost of llm but that's bit stopping them
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This could also be the baader-meinhof phenomenon (also known as the frequency illusion)
