Bluesky now has 30 million users.

[clot27@lemm.ee]

People are atleast getting used to the @username@instance thing through bluesky atleast... That would make mass exodus to fediverse in future easier (if that ever happens)

[nima@leminal.space]

the issue with that is the fediverse isn't the easiest thing to sign up for. and the fediverse needs explaining pre-sign up for most people.

listen I have both bluesky and mastodon so I get you. but for now, bluesky is at least not the platform of an angry nazi man child. (at least not yet).

[jackattack@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

I'm not familiar with Blue sky, do they advertise as federated or how exactly do they claim to differ from a regular platform like original Twitter?

[pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz]

About a million active users each month

[mark@programming.dev]

This is so true. There's a comment in this thread going all crazy complaining about it being costly to host anything on the protocol to stop Bluesky from dominating it and everything. But im like "uhh yeah, servers and storage costs money". It's just so weird how everyone thinks popular sites should be free.

[blind3rdeye@lemm.ee]

which is less than bsky, but more than lemmy.

I think a lot of people get sucked into the idea that more is better. But that isn't necessarily the case. I don't think any of us really want to talk to a million different people anyway. We just want to talk to a suitable subset.

[scrollone@feddit.it]

It's sad but I agree. Lemmy works well, especially if you use third-party apps such as Voyager, but Mastodon... is so badly thought. I can navigate it because I'm a technical person, but normal people will never be able to understand how to use it, what are instances, why it asks me to type my instance when I want to follow someone, etc.

[prandom_returns@lemm.ee]

What a bunch of dumbasses

[spaniard@lemmy.world]

I never had a twitter account, not because of political beliefs but because the core of that social network is bullshit and the internet should be better than that.

[mimicjar@lemmy.world]

https://docs.bsky.app/docs/advanced-guides/federation-architecture

And reading an article from TechCrunch,

"The social network has a Twitter-like user interface with algorithmic choice, a federated design and community-specific moderation."

"Is Bluesky decentralized? Yes. Bluesky’s team is developing the decentralized AT Protocol, which Bluesky was built atop."

"However, the launch of federation will make it work more similarly to Mastodon in that users can pick and choose which servers to join and move their accounts around at will."

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So it definitely is pitching that is it decentralized and federated. Maybe the argument is that it "will be", but at the moment it is not and at the moment it does not look like it will be an actual possibility.

Now people leaving Twitter is great, don't get me wrong, but it's possibly just kicking the can down the road. In a few years we'll likely have articles complaining about missing "Old Bluesky" and how "new Bluesky" has the exact same problems that "Old Twitter" had.

[rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de]

Good, I don't need the mass. Social media is cancer anyways.

[merc@sh.itjust.works]

The difference is that you can easily move to another Mastodon instance, and it's designed so that when you do that your followers / followees come with you.

[abackdeckwarlord@sh.itjust.works]

It's interesting what a bubble lemmy users are in. There is a reason it is not taking off and did not replace reddit for many people that tried it. It's way too daunting and confusing for the average user, same with mastodon.

[psythik@lemmy.world]

It's literally just Shower Thoughts: The Website.

I really don't understand the appeal.

[xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org]

Except you can’t move your posts. Or, really, anything other than followers.

[captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works]

It is a decent format for businesses, organizations, musicians/comedians/touring acts etc. to announce events and goings on to the general public. For discourse, it's complete garbagepuke.

[deathbird@mander.xyz]

Activitypub or gtfo

[merc@sh.itjust.works]

True, and this is something that Bluesky actually seems to do better. Your posts are stored in a "PDS" (personal data store), so in theory they're not tied to any particular instance.

I hope that a future version of the Fediverse design / ActivityPub considers how to handle this issue. Still, I'd much rather lose my past posts than lose my social graph. Past posts can probably be archived, but it's much harder to track down people you used to be mutuals with on a different account and follow each-other.

[werefreeatlast@lemmy.world]

1/10th the US population! Fantastic!

[interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml]

Time for the fediverse to reflect on this lamentable failure to capture the zeitgeist. The future could have been glorious. Instead we have infighting, defederation, owner class privilege with their delegates (moderators) as the first class citizen. And of course, hiding the structures of power has already begun in the name of harmony, so no, you can't have frictionless account migration. Don't step out of line if you don't want to lose your fediverse relationships and history...