Bluesky now has 30 million users.

[3dmvr@lemm.ee]

there really isnt much friction either if you dont cate about piracy otherwise id have stayed on lemmyworld when vyjr reccomended it, they really just need to try it, I complained until I tried it

[arc@lemm.ee]

Bluesky is like Twitter but with about 1/10th the idiots, and no mechanism that the idiots can elevate their racist, moronic hot takes above other comments.

[redditrefugee69@lemmynsfw.com]

Cruel pragmatism meets naive idealism. A tale as old as time.

[landedgentry@lemmy.zip]

But even then you have to explain the whole subscribed vs local vs all situation. Then defederation, so they know that there is stuff they can’t access without creating another account on another instance.

No matter how much we simplify it it’s simply not that simple. At least not compared to traditional social media. And we can sit here and call them lazy for not learning how it works or we can do more to try to meet people where they’re at

[nexguy@lemmy.world]

I don't think 99% of people who have joined bluesky have any clue what federation is or means. They do know what "not twitter" is however.

[spirinolas@lemmy.world]

Not only do I don't mind multiple instances, I welcome it. It's a feature for me, not a bug. But having to create multiple accounts is a no-no and what keeps people away. People say you only need one but that's not true if you want to be active in multiple instances.

If the fediverse had a way to unify account creation, that would be a game changer. It's pretty much what's holding the fediverse down, be it Lemmy, Pixelfed, PeerTube, etc. It's frustrating because without that limitation I could see the corpos being given a run for their money.

[landedgentry@lemmy.zip]

I think maybe I mis-conveyed my point. I love the way this is all structured. The problem is that it is not accessible to laymen at first glance.

[captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works]

At some point I'm not averse to advertising. I'm fine with Burger King having signs on their buildings.

My water bill comes with a one page flyer from the town every month which announces things like planned road construction, the obligatory "as we enter [whatever] season, remember that it probably presents a fire hazard somehow" from the fire department (seriously I'm surprised they didn't warn against knocking candles over during Valentine's Day fucking) and a list of events that the town library, community college and other such organizations are putting on open to the public.

I see a place or even a need for a similar platform that operates at a national or global scale.

I'm reminded of the Bloody Board, which if I understand the story correctly was a Buffy The Vampire Slayer fan site whose owner was kind of misusing a forum engine as an announcement board, so if you didn't know that bit of context it looked like someone going completely insane. A writer for Cracked.com didn't know that bit of context, and wrote an article about how someone was apparently going completely insane, and Cracked's audience took that at face value and basically broke it. Having a Twitter account, or a Mastodon account, that does the same thing, posting about a TV show (quotes, memorable scenes, interviews with cast and crew, appearances at conventions and stuff, fan meet and greets etc) would seem perfectly normal.

The thing I'm envisioning might be closer to an RSS feed except it's a platform.

[supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz]

Bluesky will follow the same enshittification trajectory Twitter did, it is just the beginning of the rollercoaster where the coaster is slowly brought up to the top to be launched... and everyone is exclaiming "wow I haven't even thrown up yet!" as if that was any indicator of how much they were about to throw up...

[supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz]

This is such a half-assed dog and pony show.

They have millions in investment, why do they need someone else to fund this? Why don't the bluesky team directly and materially support them?

This is a core aspect of Bluesky's marketing and they asking other volunteers to help make them rich.

[jhex@lemmy.world]

why are people frothing over Bluesky? this is just Twitter but owned by a different oligarch

[archrecord@lemm.ee]

It actually does exist, at least on Mastodon, but is still very janky (e.g. old posts aren't moved over due to "technical limitations")

Automatically makes people unfollow your old account and re-follow your new account, then makes your old instance's link redirect to your new instance's one.

[supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz]

Time for the fediverse to reflect on this lamentable failure to capture the zeitgeist

We haven't failed, the wise ones among us understand companies like bluesky grow cancerously, and that cancerous growth is neither desirable nor emulatable (especially in pace) in a healthy system.

[supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz]

Maybe the argument is that it "will be", but at the moment it is not

Hey, I have a couch you should buy, it isn't comfy right now but me a random human promises you on my word that after you buy it one day I will come back and fix it up so it is the comfiest couch ever!

Also maybe like somebody could make a non-profit to add features my business sold customers on with marketing hype!

[supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz]

It is the path of least resistance because it just goes in circles

[freebee@sh.itjust.works]

Because they learned nothing

[ramenjunkie@midwest.social]

Its also, honestly, just really hard to find people on Mastodon.

[fedizen@lemmy.world]

Until there's overt advertising its unlikely to enshittify the normal way. That doesn't mean it won't, just that a different capital process is at work. Wikipedia has outlived most of "web2.0" because of its funding model.

[mio@feddit.nu]

Good with some competition. We need much more in that area.

[supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz]

then the Bluesky exodus will really have a solid reason to try to understand why decentralisation is so important...

or people will have lost the ability to imagine alternative and better places...

...which is where we come in to make sure they don't forget!