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The Fediverse Isn’t the Future. It’s the Present We’ve Been Denied.

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      The problem isn’t that the fediverse isn’t viable. The problem isn’t that it’s “too complicated.” The problem is that the giants of Silicon Valley have spent 20 years convincing us that anything outside their control isn’t worth our time.

      And that’s just not bloody true.

      Couldn't have said it better myself

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        The problem isn’t that the fediverse isn’t viable. The problem isn’t that it’s “too complicated.” The problem is that the giants of Silicon Valley have spent 20 years convincing us that anything outside their control isn’t worth our time.

        And that’s just not bloody true.

        Couldn't have said it better myself

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        Well said indeed

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        • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

          The problem isn’t that the fediverse isn’t viable. The problem isn’t that it’s “too complicated.” The problem is that the giants of Silicon Valley have spent 20 years convincing us that anything outside their control isn’t worth our time.

          And that’s just not bloody true.

          Couldn't have said it better myself

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          Exactly! That’s how people usually argue against the Fediverse. People have literally been indoctrinated into believing the internet is centralised.

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            Exactly! That’s how people usually argue against the Fediverse. People have literally been indoctrinated into believing the internet is centralised.

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            Our biggest enemy is actually the bootlicker.

            Once that guy flips the regime will have hard time maintaining legitimacy

            Americans don't understand the politics of proper opposition and dissent

            Voting for the other guy ain't it... And it is a lot more than "politics" it is a life style.

            Deny the parasite profit and engagement

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              It's the social media equivalent of supporting a bunch of Mom and Pop shops (or opening your own!) vs some hyper-sanitized, corporate monstrosity like Wal-Mart.

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                Don't let the grabbing hands grab all they can.

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                • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

                  The problem isn’t that the fediverse isn’t viable. The problem isn’t that it’s “too complicated.” The problem is that the giants of Silicon Valley have spent 20 years convincing us that anything outside their control isn’t worth our time.

                  And that’s just not bloody true.

                  Couldn't have said it better myself

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                  Personally, I prefer an intellectual barrier to entry. It’s one of the things that made the internet of the early days so much better than today.

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                    The problem isn’t that the fediverse isn’t viable. The problem isn’t that it’s “too complicated.” The problem is that the giants of Silicon Valley have spent 20 years convincing us that anything outside their control isn’t worth our time.

                    And that’s just not bloody true.

                    Couldn't have said it better myself

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                    I don’t think it’s too complicated, but it is noticeably more complicated than joining traditional social media. People often get immediately freaked out by the whole concept of instances. I know everybody keeps trying to use the email comparison, but that just is not working. People cannot connect the dots between email and something like Instagram.

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                      Personally, I prefer an intellectual barrier to entry. It’s one of the things that made the internet of the early days so much better than today.

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                      Everybody who says this assumes they wouldn’t have been barred from entry were they to try and get in now.

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                        Everybody who says this assumes they wouldn’t have been barred from entry were they to try and get in now.

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                        I was speaking more to the early days of the internet. You had to be relatively smart, and determined to get on it.

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                          I am a hostage that has been set free from a prison camp. Thank you Fedi.

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                            I don’t think it’s too complicated, but it is noticeably more complicated than joining traditional social media. People often get immediately freaked out by the whole concept of instances. I know everybody keeps trying to use the email comparison, but that just is not working. People cannot connect the dots between email and something like Instagram.

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                            It would help to change the nomenclature. Joining a Facebook “group” makes sense to anybody. Change insider jargon like “instance” to seeker-friendly verbiage like “village.”

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                              The problem isn’t that the fediverse isn’t viable. The problem isn’t that it’s “too complicated.” The problem is that the giants of Silicon Valley have spent 20 years convincing us that anything outside their control isn’t worth our time.

                              And that’s just not bloody true.

                              Couldn't have said it better myself

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                              I would argue it is closer to 60 years.

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                                I don’t think it’s too complicated, but it is noticeably more complicated than joining traditional social media. People often get immediately freaked out by the whole concept of instances. I know everybody keeps trying to use the email comparison, but that just is not working. People cannot connect the dots between email and something like Instagram.

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                                I remember joining reddit when it had the old interface and thinking that it is super unintuitive and complicated compared to all other social media. This didn't stop reddit from growing and i don't think lemmy will be restricted by this in the long run. People generally are just not aware of the fediverse and how it works yet but they will get used to it.

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                                  I was speaking more to the early days of the internet. You had to be relatively smart, and determined to get on it.

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                                  I'll never forget when the AOLers started showing up.

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                                    I'll never forget when the AOLers started showing up.

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                                    yeah, they sure ruined newsgroups…

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                                      yeah, they sure ruined newsgroups…

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                                      Eternal September

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                                        Eternal September

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                                        Yup. I’ll admit, I didn’t foresee AI coming along and finding a way to make the quality of discourse even worse

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                                        • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                          It's the social media equivalent of supporting a bunch of Mom and Pop shops (or opening your own!) vs some hyper-sanitized, corporate monstrosity like Wal-Mart.

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                                          There are a lot of people who prioritize convenience above all else. Why go shop at a butcher, baker, green grocer, and a liquor store when you can go to one place and get it all? Doesn't matter that the separate entities are specialized and therefore more knowledgeable about the product vs. Walmart where asking an employee is the most useless thing ever.

                                          Same with social media or things like Google. People are lazy. Why shop around when Facebook gives you everything? Why learn how to use the address bar when Google will do the work for you.

                                          So the fediverse goes against that in that it asks users to actually think for a moment about things and requires them to shop around... which, that's just too much work for the average person.

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