Tesla’s sales fall 63% in France, Europe’s second biggest EV market

[microwave@lemmy.world]

Summary

Tesla’s sales in France dropped 63% in January, marking the lowest since August 2022. This sharp decline outpaced the overall French EV market, which fell only 0.5%.

Tesla’s struggles in Europe stem from Elon Musk’s controversial political stances, including support for Germany’s far-right party, as well as stricter EU emissions standards and reduced subsidies.

Germany, Tesla’s largest European market, saw a 41% sales drop.

[yerbouti@sh.itjust.works]

Not many people want to be seen in a nazi car. Between that and twitter, the babyllionaire douche is really demonstrating his genius.

[andyburke@fedia.io]

The French (rightly) hate Nazi stuff. ‍️

[atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io]

Agreed!

Are you a Sheik?

[empricorn@feddit.nl]

It's a good start. I do my part by pointing and laughing at every big, stupid, dangerous cybertruck owner...

[hubertmanne@moist.catsweat.com]

there is no real reason to use twitter or a tesla at this point (outside of having bought one many years ago). Unfortunately spacex does not have a good alternate and im not really sure where the solar/battery stuff fall as far as their options compared to others.

[potate@lemmy.ca]

I waited until I could get my hands on a Hyundai EV because I couldn't stomach Musk. A buddy is currently considering a used Tesla because prices have cratered - but is factoring in the cost of several large 'Musk Sucks' stickers to plaster all over it.

[partial_accumen@lemmy.world]

im not really sure where the solar/battery stuff fall as far as their options compared to others.

For the residential market it looks like this.

Panels - Tesla solar panels are nothing special. They use other manufacturer's panels. They generally choose acceptable middle-of-the-road models, not the high end, not the low end.

Panel integration to homes - Telsa does have a clever part for linking into an existing home wiring panel that can be faster/cheaper that the common methods called a meter collar. However it is only certified for use in some states so far. Also, other companies are coming out with their own meter collar, but I concede that Tesla was the first to do this.

Battery - Tesla Powerwall is one of the most popular home battery options because of its large capacity relative to its price. However, there have been bad runs with some of its models with its inverter prematurely failing or running extra hot and shutting down. Overall its still considered higher quality unit and user experience. However, its not the only battery on the market. In the USA solar vendor specific batteries exist with pros and cons compared to Tesla. Enphase is one of the leaders in home solar, and they make an excellent (but expensive) battery system. Franklin also makes a vendor neutral battery that is highly regarded.

In all of these Tesla home solar products one thing that is universally agreed to is how horrible the Tesla customer service experience is. Getting a hold of a human is nearly impossible. When you do the human will frequently not follow up, and you'll find out that human is gone and you have to go through the process again to get your issue addressed. Replacement parts can be delayed by months mean, and not infrequently the subcontractors used to install the equipment cause problems or damage to the houses where the install occurs.

I chose to skip Tesla and did not use them for any of my home solar install and I'm very glad I did.

[yerbouti@sh.itjust.works]

Sheik Sheik Sheik, Sheik Yerbouti!! It's been a real long time since anyone mention the reference, cheers!

[gissamittjobb@lemmy.ml]

Not a large drop enough, let's make that 100% please

[laser@feddit.org]

None of this matters, you know they'll have robots in like two years and Tesla will be the company worth the most, with a value of the next five companies combined*.

*This is what Tesla investors actually believe; Musk claimed this on the last earnings call last week.

[atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io]

Thanks for your thorough reply. We have solar on our home. I'd like to get a battery back up, but am a little annoyed on the price of that, and will not go nazi tesla any time in the near future.

[partial_accumen@lemmy.world]

Unless you're in California or a couple other pockets of very high time-of-use (TOU) rates, home batteries don't make economic sense right now. However, there are more than economic reasons for some folks for home batteries: medical equipment in the home for a loved one, backup power for high outage areas, personal actions on climate concerns. None of these are good "investments" returns though for batteries.

I bought a small amount of very expensive batteries, but where I live we have true 1:1 net metering so there isn't any economic benefit.

[thefluffiest@feddit.nl]

You couldn’t get me to drive a Tesla even if you paid me for it

[atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io]

Enphase did some of our stuff. I've looked at their offerings. I'm a little miffed that I have a huge battery 77kWh on wheels even, and can't use that more efficiently to power the house. It has V2L, but at 1800W max. Whatcha think about using that V2L to run a pump, send the water up in to a lovely medium sized water tower which I'm sure the HOA would appreciate, and generate back some electrons while I take a shower, water the garden, etc?

[slopppyengineer@lemmy.world]

Promising self driving next year since 2013

[notsteve_@lemmy.ca]

I don't understand how the stock is STILL so high

[naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

I use to want one. I was following news for them as electric cars were a bit of a hyper focus for me at the time.

My next car will very likely be full electric and there is no way I will own a Tesla now. I'm not even sure I would get one at this point if musk was no longer associated with it.

He has done everything he can to alienate the actual consumers of Tesla.

[dogslayeggs@lemmy.world]

They released info to shareholders last week that showed an 8% drop in year over year sales... and yet the stock went up. Maybe people expected the drop to be even higher, so the drop was already priced in?? But it just feels like there is market manipulation going on.

[partial_accumen@lemmy.world]

I’m a little miffed that I have a huge battery 77kWh on wheels even, and can’t use that more efficiently to power the house.

Is that a limitation of Enphase or your car? Enphase does have a bidirectional charger to do exactly what you're describing if your car is compatible with it.