Tesla’s sales fall 63% in France, Europe’s second biggest EV market

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I use to want one. I was following news for them as electric cars were a bit of a hyper focus for me at the time.

My next car will very likely be full electric and there is no way I will own a Tesla now. I'm not even sure I would get one at this point if musk was no longer associated with it.

He has done everything he can to alienate the actual consumers of Tesla.

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They released info to shareholders last week that showed an 8% drop in year over year sales... and yet the stock went up. Maybe people expected the drop to be even higher, so the drop was already priced in?? But it just feels like there is market manipulation going on.

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I’m a little miffed that I have a huge battery 77kWh on wheels even, and can’t use that more efficiently to power the house.

Is that a limitation of Enphase or your car? Enphase does have a bidirectional charger to do exactly what you're describing if your car is compatible with it.

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My EV does V2L (vehicle to load), but at a miniscule 1800watts. I can use a water boiler, or an induction hob, but not both at the same time. The problem is getting the power back to the house fast enough to be useful. Thanks for the Enphase link, I'm always a bit scared when they don't show a price. I"ll look deeper when I have a chance.

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Until recently, I think I'd have given them a shot if Musk was 100% removed from the company, not by his choice. Now, Tesla is synonymous with a Nazi. That taint will last decades if they were to drop him right now, but I will never give them a penny.

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Not many people want to be seen in a nazi car

Eh, people really like VW bugs, and those we're commissioned by hitler and designed by the nazis. They've done a lot better at distancing themselves from their founder, though.

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It was very nice of him to come up with a new story why people should pay this insane price for the stock. Fanboys were getting embarrassed repeating it for so many years, at least to the extend they are able to be embarrassed. But now they have something else.

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It’s a cult.

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My EV does V2L (vehicle to load), but at a miniscule 1800watts. I can use a water boiler, or an induction hob, but not both at the same time. The problem is getting the power back to the house fast enough to be useful.

Talk to someone actually qualified (I'm not), but there is a VERY NARROW set of circumstances that I could see your car working, as-is, to power your home.

The IQ System Controller 3 can have a "generator" input (designed for use with a gasoline, propane, or natural gas generator. If you have the older Enphase battery system (the T series) and only ONE of them, and only their smallest one the 3T, then you can use the Generator input to input 1.83kw aka 1830w.

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One of the few conspiracies I actually subscribe to is that there is no legitimate stock market anymore, it is 100% under price control. Wins and losses - such as they are - are being determined by huge banks and hedge funds using AI algorithms, dark pools and phantom shares to maintain an iron grip. I got started down this path when I read Michael Lewis' book Flash Boys, which, like this video was over 10 years ago.

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Not one more Tesla should be sold in any democratic country.

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Well that looks interesting. TY! Tho' I really like the Gravity Battery conceptually.

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I better listen to some Zappa. It has been a long time.

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Merge Boeing into Tesla, all gov vehicles now Teslas, they already got the space program on lock, just put them the rest of the way into the military industrial complex, he's already got access to all the treasury stuff for unlimited funds, bing bang boom, Tesla is now Stark Industires and we surround the country with the Elon Dome.

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I don't know that there's any sort of conspiracy, but it's definitely true that a huge part of the market is in "dumb money" -- index funds that just buy every stock weighted by market cap, and thus exert no influence on what the companies actually do.

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While I appreciate the Rube Goldberg nature of the gravity battery, the mechanical losses of energy would be significant. You'd likely lose at least 20% of the energy bringing your total usable down to 1440w. Just to let you know for scale that 1800w you have available is pretty significant energy to power a house if you're talking lights, refrigeration, and general electronics. I just checked right now and my whole house is only pulling 1100w. That's with the HVAC fan running moving air, but no heating or cooling being generated at this moment, no cooking or EV charging either.

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My guess is that, with Musk basically in charge of the government now, investors are expecting huge returns from corruption.

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There's another factor that jumps to mind when I think of cars in France: they buy A LOT of French cars! I don't have any statistical data, but it feels like half of the cars on their roads are French... And now that their manufacturers' offer of EVs is starting to flesh out, they probably prefer buying "local".

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Just remember, don't eat the yellow snow.

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I also suspect that because so much manufacturing is in China, what we think of as the world's stock market is just a small fraction of anything. Does an index count if an index doesn't measure much?

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Tesla’s sales fall 63% in France, Europe’s second biggest EV market