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  • J [email protected]

    I think 6th grade is reading for plot. Just a basic plot with a few characters. No complex themes. No unreliable narrators. Limited vocabulary.

    I found an online test for it somewhere and it was like

    "Sally was born in Canada and lived there until she moved to the United States when she was thirteen. She spends summers in Canada with her aunt and uncle, but spends the rest of the year in Boston. This year, she's graduating from high school and planning on attending college. She wants to see more of the country, so her top picks for college are in California and Chicago."

    "Where does Sally live during the winter?"

    "Where did Sally spend her childhood?"

    "Where do Sally's aunt and uncle live?"

    You're not going to find as many people who read badly on a majority text platform like this.

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    Are you allowed to refer back to the text?

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      Are you allowed to refer back to the text?

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      I believe so. Otherwise you're testing memory as well, which would make the results very confounded.

      I can't find the one I did, but https://www.varsitytutors.com/6th_grade_reading-comprehension-problem-440865 seems free.

      https://www.k12reader.com/subject/reading-skills/reading-comprehension/6th-grade-reading-comprehension/ also came up.

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      • pugjesus@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

        Oh yes, I strongly agree with all that. Just felt the need to nitpick that the contribution of Nazi scientists was relatively narrow.

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        I always respect and look forward to your opinion. You are a great contributor to Lemmy and I always learn something new from everything you share here.

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        • C [email protected]

          It took thirty years of cutting education spending but they are almost to a fully ignorant populace.

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          We've even hit the point where they don't have to pretend to be pro education

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            Is this real? And what’s 6th grade for someone who isn’t American?

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            About 11-12 years old. Educational standards should be a base understanding of simple novels and ability to write a basic page or two length essay on it. Math skills should be late arithmetic or early algebra. Or at least that's what I remember from the time.

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            • T [email protected]

              What percentage are those guys in the photos?

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              That is the smartest man in the world and the president

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              • khannie@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                For us foreigners, 6th grade is around 10 / 11 years old?

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                A little older. I was 11 in grade 6, but I was also the youngest student.

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                • P [email protected]

                  Definitely valid point. Were are aiming way too low as a nation. It’s ok for people to fail and we should be rewarding people for over achieving. Not the opposite.

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                  Aiming low because it’s easy to hit, which is necessary when the punishment for not hitting is being stripped of everything that can make you safe and secure(money and private insurance, in that system). People are terrified and it’s 33/33/33 if they use that fear to fight for others, fight against everyone else, or shove their heads in the sand and pretend there’s nothing they can do about it. Oddly enough there’s also a spike in test scores and shit because competition for jobs has gotten so fierce, but at the same time bad management isn’t doing anything of real value with that talent and all it’s really doing is hurting everyone.

                  People don’t even actually need a reward for over-achieving, either. Most people will happily do it for their own pride and for the thrill of doing it. The issue is more that they are burnt out and rightfully not willing to put in the extra effort if their manager is just going to take the credit and they’ll watch their shitty raise, if they get one, still be outpaced by inflation year over year. Give me safety and a real life and I’ll do the rest for free; threaten me and you’ll be lucky I don’t direct that energy toward plucking your fucking eyes out.

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                  • khannie@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                    For us foreigners, 6th grade is around 10 / 11 years old?

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                    Yep. God help us.

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                    • vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pubV [email protected]

                      You have entire corporations, nation-wide that are backed by religious nuts and racists, entire state-sized organizations of assholes paid from the bottom-up, and unless science and education has the same backing, we will lose.

                      When's the last time a rock band was labeled a "science band", but you can name four or five christian bands without even listening to them?

                      There are entire record companies and publishing houses that do nothing but spread more of it, interest groups in the billions of dollars that circulate faith and blindness. Even philanthropy, and a yelling preacher on every corner, sometimes across the street from one another, hospitals, nonprofits, foundations, you name it.

                      Christianity and Judaism is so overblown in support, we shouldn't expect anything less than absolute ignorance. Look what's pushing it.

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                      Where exactly are the Jews advocating for cutting educational resources? Jews in general perform far better on educational metrics than most other groups, and their whole religion is based on reading, study, and debate.

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                      • T [email protected]

                        87.4% graduate high school, then people stop being forced to read books and those who never liked reading get out of practice

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                        I genuinely do not understand why people do not like reading. Im not a super nerd and only read a few books a year but I look at the hours i spent reading those books as some of the best entertainment i've had all year.

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                          Can we fix that by abolishing the department of education?
                          It's only gonna get worse, isn't it?

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                            Yeah we elected one in to the presidential office too

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                              Well, reading and writing is a 6 millenia old technology, thus it's in dire need of replacement with AI readers /s

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                              • W [email protected]

                                Yep, going to report this. It's not a meme .. it is actually fact and documentation for our eventual Idiocracy future.

                                Just kidding about the report of course.

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                                Op would be very upset if he could read this.

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                                • cmor@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                  In healthcare, all of our education material for patients is at a 5th grade level.

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                                  I mean, that's a whole different topic. Documents and info material everyone should have access to need to be inclusive so even your average Fox News viewer can read it.

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                                    • S [email protected]

                                      Can we fix that by abolishing the department of education?
                                      It's only gonna get worse, isn't it?

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                                      By design. Learndt particular individuals tend not to vote for Nazis.

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                                        Yeah, we’ve noticed. Not that Europe is far behind I fear.

                                        Literacy is definitely declining; people just don’t have the attention spans they used to. Between Twitter, TikTok and other brain rot, reading a book or simply a longer text just isn’t something a lot of people do.

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                                          Question what is considered 6th grade.

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