Bad UX is keeping the majority of people away from Lemmy
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Sadly you're probably right. It would be nice if there were some load balancing mechanism where restrigrations could be shut for the larger instances where it recognises that it's grown much larger than the rest, and recommend altnerative instances.
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Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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Ah, The Great Filter of Lemmy, yes.
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If you have to explain a joke it loses its meaning.
If you have to explain UI, it loses its meaning.It should be self explanatory.
People here say Lemmy's UX is fine, and then give a paragraph of instructions a user should follow to get started.
They should just be able to start scrolling immediately, and if they want to interact they should be asked to create an account, and a instance suggested. -
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I'm sure you've seen some of the bad experiences new users have posted on here.
But I'll summarise
- It's intimidating to pick a instance,
- Once you login the UI is very different to what you're used to and not very intuitive.
- No tutorial
etc.
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That doesn't help at all, I'd say. Most people won't ever create communities.
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I wish just like NSFW filter, posts can be marked as Political, and users have the option to block all of that.
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I'm 32 and work in tech, The reality is the vast majority of people won't want to use old.reddit style UI
I'm comfortable powering through shitty UI/UX etc. I've even built them myself, but others won't settle for shitty UI
You and your friends are old I assume, and got used to the old.reddit UI, and didn't want to change.
Most people are used to modern UI, and won't want to change to old UI, just like you don't want to change either. We should better cater for average people.
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According to https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy, the top 5 (where top 5 is defined by user count) are:
- lemmy.world
- lemm.ee
- sh.itjust.works
- hexbear
- lemmy.dbzer0
After there's:
- beehaw
- lemmygrad
- programming.dev
- lemmy.ca
Lemmy.world is pretty safe and generic, but it's already huge (173k users vs 33k of lemm.ee).
Lemm.ee is also a safe bet.
Hexbear is totally out of question
dbzer0 is great, but it leans heavily in a political direction -
Potential hot take: Do we even want the majority of people here?
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The people who aren’t here are making excuses to not be here. Otherwise they’d be here.
That being said the feud between world and ml users is pretty noticeable
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To my knowledge we don't want to filter out non tech savvy people. If that's what we want then cool, leave it as is.
But I don't think that's true, especially not for all instances.
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Like the other person said, 99% of users never create communities anyway. I don't really know what this read-only instance is meant to solve.
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The reddit concept of subreddits also doesn't work well with federation IMO (at least no Lemmy's implementation).
Want to talk about video games? Well, there's no /r/games, instead there are bunch of different /c/games on different servers with varying amounts of activity. You basically gotta make the "pick a server" decision again whenever you post something. If you make the wrong choice, your post might not get seen by anyone, and even if you post to the biggest sub, you'll be missing out on eyeballs from people on other servers who aren't subscribed to that instance for whatever reason.
For example, lemmy.ml/c/linux_gaming and lemmy.world/c/linux_gaming have around the same number of subscribers. Should I post to both? Maybe the same people subscribe to both, so that's pointless? Or maybe I'll miss out on a lot of discussion if I post only to one? There's no way for me to know.
For me, it makes Lemmy less useful than reddit for asking really niche questions and getting useful answers. For posting comments on whatever pops up in my feed though, it works great.
I don't have any good solutions to this, and I'm sure it has been considered already. When I first joined, I remembered seeing people bring this same issue up, but it doesn't seem like it went anywhere? (Or maybe it did?)
