Bad UX is keeping the majority of people away from Lemmy
-
Upvoted.
If Facebook and Apple have eroded people's brains to the point where such a simple question cannot be answered without freaking out, then we're in trouble.
Yes. Thinking ability is gone. That's of last century.
Maybe I've just written my/our answer. Fuck that's depressing. Happily I'm old - I'll be dead soon. This will be your problem.
-
Good point
-
They sign up on AOL or Yahoo Mail or Gmail. Or get an email address through their ISP.
"Here's your address." They use it.
-
They don't really need to know about that until they have had time on Lemmy to hear about what those defederated instances actually do
-
Maybe it's more like picking a football team
-
The one I suggest the most lately is https://discuss.online/
-
Have you tried blocking some communities?
-
"Here's Lemmy. It's like Reddit. There's a bunch of different websites for it, but they all have basically the same things on them. Just join one near you, if you don't like it you can always use a different one later"
-
Thank-you.
I was hoping that the content would be id linked to a user id so that moving an account would remain linked to the content if moved between instances.
It's not an inconceivable expectation for when instances close down or people find that the instance doesn't suit them.
Is that the case?
-
I think all of that would be easy to add to Lemmy, they already have the sorting method for posts (New Comments), the option to sort comments as "Chat", and the option to disable voting. Maybe file a few feature requests on the Lemmy GitHub. It would be interesting to see an instance like this.
-
These things don't affect the average user (lurker) much at all. Ideally you just start with whatever instance and only move if you don't like it. A new user can't really know if an instance is bad or not before trying it.
(As long as there recommendation page doesn't give them an extremist instance)
-
The one thing that I like about the fediverse is that it somehow unintentionally has a filter to keep the low effort people from poisoning the well.
I have been on the fediverse from 2019 and these types of arguments have been floated times and again at each exodus wave. they expect to be offered everything on a silver platter. they come into a new platform maintained by hobbyists and good will people and they expect it to offer the same features, experiences and user base or even better than the once on proprietary media that spend billions of dollars to acquire that user base. they get screwed by one company and hope that another for profit won't do the same. Lemmy is even easier than email, as you don't need to know the handle of people of communities you interact with you just search for them or explore the public feed. We don't need them here.
there are many aspects the fediverse can improve upon. decentralization or federation isn't one of them
-
As someone who has had to explain to longtime Linux users why and how some arcane aspect of package management isn't grok-able by the common user, I understand where you're coming from with that point.
I do think the overall experience could be more intuitive and easier, but if the first concepts of federation and picking a server is too much for someone, I don't think that is possible to overcome since that's fundamental to this whole citizen controlled media experiment.
-
If they find Lemmy "too hard to understand", do we really want them here?
-
Not a bad idea!
-
IMO if Lemmy had all the features that old.reddt had it would still be an objectivly worse UX experience. Federating reduces UX, that's just a rule.
We should focus on making the onboarding process as simple as possible like enabling social login (inb4 insecure and not private: let people make their choices), and making it easier to move between instances and understand what instance you're looking at.
-
That's a fair point, actually. I suppose as long as an algorithm doesn't prioritize engagement at all costs, it could be a worthy addition.
-
Two minutes (and you're being very optimistic here, for someone who isn't technically inclined it's almost certainly going to be more) of required reading on a subject that's just not even remotely interesting to 99% of people eliminates basically all non technical people. Because they just don't care enough to devote that time. If that's the user base you want, that works out, but I'd like people here who can hold a conversation about something other than Linux and Star Trek. It's honestly kinda boring here.
-
So is a large part of lemmy.world cached on sh.itjust.works' server? Does Pixelfed, Loops or Peertube work the same way? I could see images or video being more of a burden to serve like that. Or does AP sync the metadata like thumbnail, video title, description, comments etc. and the video itself is torrented straight from the host server?
-
This is what we call "dipshit energy".
The fediverse is confusing and that's bad. It should be less confusing, and there should be less people making comments like that one. Quit it.
We'll get there sooner or later. Hopefully sooner.
