HP are interested in making a SteamOS handheld as the Windows experience sucks https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/03/hp-are-interested-in-making-a-steamos-handheld-as-the-windows-experience-sucks/
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HP are interested in making a SteamOS handheld as the Windows experience sucks https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/03/hp-are-interested-in-making-a-steamos-handheld-as-the-windows-experience-sucks/
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HP are interested in making a SteamOS handheld as the Windows experience sucks https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/03/hp-are-interested-in-making-a-steamos-handheld-as-the-windows-experience-sucks/
@gamingonlinux Not that I'm arguing against more choices, but isn't the Steam Deck already exactly that, while also being first-party?
Also HP is a bloatware company, not a gaming company. What is our level of trust in them to appease the gaming community's interests, or at least not be hostile toward them as consumers?
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@gamingonlinux Not that I'm arguing against more choices, but isn't the Steam Deck already exactly that, while also being first-party?
Also HP is a bloatware company, not a gaming company. What is our level of trust in them to appease the gaming community's interests, or at least not be hostile toward them as consumers?
@ottercynical i get what you're saying, but you can apply that to literally anything
"why do x when y exists"
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@ottercynical i get what you're saying, but you can apply that to literally anything
"why do x when y exists"
@gamingonlinux Is that what I typed? No, I can see that it wasn't.
What I asked (more between the lines I suppose) was:
1. What is the difference? As in, in what way would HP differentiate its handheld device from Valve's first-party device, let alone appear more appealing to both consumers and shareholders? What is your opinion on this (and not a fallacious handwave with the implication that it's too extreme a question to entertain)?
2. Can a reader of this question, for the sake of hypothesis, imagine and describe for us (the "forum") a scenario that they feel constitutes a realistic vision of a handheld gaming device manufactured by Hewlett-Packard? Do we maybe even have any examples?
Instead, the response I got was the literal rewriting and reduction of my entire line of questioning to "why would we do new thing when we have old thing" — or actually, come to think of it, you didn't even bother being generous enough to preserve that much of the original context, reducing it all the way to its fundamental "x"/"y" components like that's not the literal definition of a straw man, when all I even wanted was other people's actual opinions.
Very interesting choice.
So now I spell the whole thing out in excruciating and impossible-to-misinterpret detail, just so that you can then go ahead and (in before) laugh and say "I can't read all that bro go cope".
Very interesting indeed.
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@gamingonlinux Is that what I typed? No, I can see that it wasn't.
What I asked (more between the lines I suppose) was:
1. What is the difference? As in, in what way would HP differentiate its handheld device from Valve's first-party device, let alone appear more appealing to both consumers and shareholders? What is your opinion on this (and not a fallacious handwave with the implication that it's too extreme a question to entertain)?
2. Can a reader of this question, for the sake of hypothesis, imagine and describe for us (the "forum") a scenario that they feel constitutes a realistic vision of a handheld gaming device manufactured by Hewlett-Packard? Do we maybe even have any examples?
Instead, the response I got was the literal rewriting and reduction of my entire line of questioning to "why would we do new thing when we have old thing" — or actually, come to think of it, you didn't even bother being generous enough to preserve that much of the original context, reducing it all the way to its fundamental "x"/"y" components like that's not the literal definition of a straw man, when all I even wanted was other people's actual opinions.
Very interesting choice.
So now I spell the whole thing out in excruciating and impossible-to-misinterpret detail, just so that you can then go ahead and (in before) laugh and say "I can't read all that bro go cope".
Very interesting indeed.
@ottercynical "Not that I'm arguing against more choices, but isn't the Steam Deck already exactly that, while also being first-party?"
Literally what you're saying, and now you're sending me a wall of text acting really silly about it
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@ottercynical "Not that I'm arguing against more choices, but isn't the Steam Deck already exactly that, while also being first-party?"
Literally what you're saying, and now you're sending me a wall of text acting really silly about it
@ottercynical oh, you're the one that did this last time, muted
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HP are interested in making a SteamOS handheld as the Windows experience sucks https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/03/hp-are-interested-in-making-a-steamos-handheld-as-the-windows-experience-sucks/
@gamingonlinux no please, HP no... if they adopt the same policy as for their printer, it will be just garbage
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HP are interested in making a SteamOS handheld as the Windows experience sucks https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/03/hp-are-interested-in-making-a-steamos-handheld-as-the-windows-experience-sucks/
@gamingonlinux Not a fan of HP generally speaking, but more choices and more manufacturers adopting Linux is always good.
Also, nice to see people in the field acknowledge how terrible the Windows experience is on those devices !