Google Chrome disables uBlock Origin for some in Manifest v3 rollout
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I advocate Firefox, but I must admit I personally am affected by regular crashes on Firefox desktop. Mostly when I enter a page I haven't visited before (randomly though).
I don't know if others are affected by this, and I still recommend Firefox regardless, but every crash leaves a sour taste in my mouth. As it is not widespread, it might just be my setup, but still.
If you have the time try the troubleshoot mode to help figure it out - add ons are often the cause
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-crashes-closing-or-quitting
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I still find it interesting that the Vanadium browser in Grapheneos is Chromium based, with no possibility of extensions. I know this is for security reasons but it feels odd to still use chrome on my phone and Firefox everywhere else.
I just use a Firefox derivative there as well, because of Ublock. Tried Vanadium but the adblocking was just not good.
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Whats the advantage of Waterfox over librewolf?
eh? no idea, never used it. these downvotes are wild to me. is waterfox bad somehow?
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eh? no idea, never used it. these downvotes are wild to me. is waterfox bad somehow?
I have no idea. I did not downvote lol. Was genuinely trying to figure out if there was a reason to switch.
I would assume there is no issue until someone actually explains what the problem is.
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That's not normal. You should go to the support pages and see if there is a fix. And it could be an addon causing the issue, not FF itself. I had that issue many years back.
I did check the about:crashes page and it showed me that it seems to be related to "speechd init" and the crash itself is being linked with
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1794057Having said that, I just disabled narrate, so maybe it goes away now.
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Thats really weird. I have never personally had the issue but it is more and fair enough to have issues with FF after that. I would recommend brave then, still chromium based but is actively doing things to make sure their adblock still works.
I dont have issues with FF in general which would cause me to stop using it, while it is frustrating, not using something chromium based still outweighs that heavily. Its kinda of a matter of principle to me.
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I have no idea. I did not downvote lol. Was genuinely trying to figure out if there was a reason to switch.
I would assume there is no issue until someone actually explains what the problem is.
wonder if they're somewhere else in the thread naming other browsers. i looked up librewolf and it looks solid enough anyway.
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What issues do people even have with firefox? Its a browser, it seems fast enough. Isn't that all most people need from a browser
I very much dislike Mozilla's direction over the last decade. They're introducing user-hostile features that subtly break normal browsing experience, even when disabled[0]. Not like Google is better, but I'm also trying to get away from Mozilla.
[0] On Firefox Mobile, there's a "feature" which makes the address bar auto-complete domains of companies paying Mozilla. I noticed this with Netflix - I never visit, but when I start writing a URL with n, roughly every 10th time Netflix was suggested. You can disable this feature, but this doesn't actually disable it. The address bar no longer auto-completes with Netflix, instead it just doesn't autocomplete! So 9/10 times I can write n and press Enter, but 1/10 times I press n and search for the letter n.
Mozilla doesn't care whether they break features, as long as they can make more money. I strongly dislike this approach by the supposedly "good" browser manufacturer.
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I very much dislike Mozilla's direction over the last decade. They're introducing user-hostile features that subtly break normal browsing experience, even when disabled[0]. Not like Google is better, but I'm also trying to get away from Mozilla.
[0] On Firefox Mobile, there's a "feature" which makes the address bar auto-complete domains of companies paying Mozilla. I noticed this with Netflix - I never visit, but when I start writing a URL with n, roughly every 10th time Netflix was suggested. You can disable this feature, but this doesn't actually disable it. The address bar no longer auto-completes with Netflix, instead it just doesn't autocomplete! So 9/10 times I can write n and press Enter, but 1/10 times I press n and search for the letter n.
Mozilla doesn't care whether they break features, as long as they can make more money. I strongly dislike this approach by the supposedly "good" browser manufacturer.
Do you have a good non chromium based alternative? To be clear I genuinely am asking those things make switching probably worth it considering how little of a hassle it is.
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What issues do people even have with firefox? Its a browser, it seems fast enough. Isn't that all most people need from a browser
Mainly that Google intentionally makes its sites (like YouTube or Google Docs) slower and less useable when they detect you're using Firefox, and/or ad blockers (which you need Firefox to use, so same difference).
It's mostly fixable with add-ons and userscripts (and eventually, one hopes, with an antitrust lawsuit), but it's still a hassle.
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Do you have a good non chromium based alternative? To be clear I genuinely am asking those things make switching probably worth it considering how little of a hassle it is.
Sadly not, I'd also be interested in one!
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Sadly not, I'd also be interested in one!
isn't chromium under the Linux foundation now? Might look at the options on that side.
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Whats the advantage of Waterfox over librewolf?
Better defaults for the average user who isn’t looking for maximum privacy
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Better defaults for the average user who isn’t looking for maximum privacy
fair enough makes sense. LibreWolf is real strict about it.
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isn't chromium under the Linux foundation now? Might look at the options on that side.
No, it's still 100% owned and 100% controlled by Google.
The Linux Foundation is just making it easier for people outside of Google to submit work to it.
Cynically, you could say that Google is just trying to get free contributions while retaining all the control. Optimistically you could say this is the first step in Google giving up control of Chromium in the far future, although currently they've given zero verbal or written indicators that they plan to do that.
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go to brave, chrome has been pretty anti-adblock for a while. chromium might have a problem since it uses chrome store for extensions.
Brave is just Chrome with added crypto and homophobia
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I just use a Firefox derivative there as well, because of Ublock. Tried Vanadium but the adblocking was just not good.
Which one are you using? I was looking at ironfox
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eh? no idea, never used it. these downvotes are wild to me. is waterfox bad somehow?
I don't know either. This one of those cases I wish people would elaborate, since I don't know much about waterfox so would welcome more insight into it.
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I very much dislike Mozilla's direction over the last decade. They're introducing user-hostile features that subtly break normal browsing experience, even when disabled[0]. Not like Google is better, but I'm also trying to get away from Mozilla.
[0] On Firefox Mobile, there's a "feature" which makes the address bar auto-complete domains of companies paying Mozilla. I noticed this with Netflix - I never visit, but when I start writing a URL with n, roughly every 10th time Netflix was suggested. You can disable this feature, but this doesn't actually disable it. The address bar no longer auto-completes with Netflix, instead it just doesn't autocomplete! So 9/10 times I can write n and press Enter, but 1/10 times I press n and search for the letter n.
Mozilla doesn't care whether they break features, as long as they can make more money. I strongly dislike this approach by the supposedly "good" browser manufacturer.
Download fennec it's the fork of ff mobile with less of the cruft.
I don't know if it has fixed that specific problem, but I can't recall seeing it
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Do you have a good non chromium based alternative? To be clear I genuinely am asking those things make switching probably worth it considering how little of a hassle it is.
GNOME Web if on Linux
