Google Chrome disables uBlock Origin for some in Manifest v3 rollout
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i like waterfox https://www.waterfox.net/
just a quick gpt comparison for people wondering
The fundamental differences between Firefox and Waterfox are as follows:
- Philosophy & Development
Firefox is developed by Mozilla and follows a mainstream development cycle with frequent updates, strong security policies, and telemetry (data collection).
Waterfox is a fork of Firefox designed for privacy-conscious users, removing telemetry and data collection while maintaining compatibility with legacy Firefox features.
- Privacy & Telemetry
Firefox collects telemetry by default, though users can disable it.
Waterfox removes Mozilla's telemetry entirely and disables other tracking features by default.
- Extension Support
Firefox only supports modern WebExtensions, dropping support for older XUL/XPCOM extensions since Firefox Quantum (version 57).
Waterfox retains support for legacy extensions, making it a preferred choice for users who rely on older add-ons.
- Update Frequency
Firefox follows a rapid release schedule, often updating every 4-6 weeks.
Waterfox updates more slowly, incorporating Firefox’s latest security patches but lagging behind in feature adoption.
- Performance & Resource Usage
Firefox is optimized for modern hardware and multi-core processing, often outperforming forks in speed and efficiency.
Waterfox may use more memory due to its legacy support but offers some performance tweaks.
- Default Services & Features
Firefox integrates with Mozilla services like Pocket, Sync, and its VPN.
Waterfox removes these integrations to minimize data-sharing concerns.
In summary, Firefox is better for users who want the latest security, performance, and mainstream web compatibility, while Waterfox is ideal for those prioritizing privacy and legacy extension support.
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GNOME Web if on Linux
This comment made me look into if KDE has one and apparently they do it even has built in ad blocking.
Off to compile for 3 hours. /j
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This comment made me look into if KDE has one and apparently they do it even has built in ad blocking.
Off to compile for 3 hours. /j
Is that Falkon? I'd use it if it could integrate with bitwarden.
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I'm one of those complaining about the UI. Used the TabMixPlus extension to adjust the UI to my liking. FF killed it. So, I started customizing the UI CSS. Every few versions, Mozilla changed the browser enough to invalidate my changes. After a while, I got tired of thiz and switched to Vivaldi, which is Chromium based.
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Firefox-based https://zen-browser.app/ if you want to get fancy
I've liked this one lately.
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You could probably convince a third-party password storage program to store and auto-type details like that. Preferably one that doesn't need internet access to work.
KeePass allows offline password management, though I am not sure if it supports card/ID autofill.
Bitwarden is mainly online only, but does support card/ID autofill and allows users to self-host their data if desired.
Not overly familiar with other password managers, but it would not surprise me if one of them out there has the best of both worlds.
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Which one are you using? I was looking at ironfox
Fennec right now, switched before Ironfox was out and now switching would be painful as there is no export, so all manual...
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https://www.tomshardware.com/news/youtube-responds-to-delayed-loading-in-rival-browser-complaints, for instance.
Or https://www.zdnet.com/article/former-mozilla-exec-google-has-sabotaged-firefox-for-years/, for an older one.
As for how to fix it, Mozilla tend to do a pretty good job of eventually working around Google's bullshit, so keeping the browser updated is a good first step.
Since Google tends to roll this stuff out regionally and doing A/B testing, though, the best way is to identify what specific handicap they're hassling you with (which specific features don't work or don't work right, when they work properly on chrome), and look for an updated add on or userscript to fix that particular issue.
Or you can just look for a generic YouTube or Google Docs "enhancer" add on and hope it fixes the issue without making the whole user experience too different from what you're used to.
thanks. I keep Firefox updated. the fact that changing the user agent gets the delay is pretty damning evidence
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What issues do people even have with firefox? Its a browser, it seems fast enough. Isn't that all most people need from a browser
No horizontal tab grouping. Tab groups on Chrome are perfect, and the Firefox tab extensions all suck in comparison.
That said, I'm still using Firefox today because the internet is unusable without a good ad blocker.
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KeePass allows offline password management, though I am not sure if it supports card/ID autofill.
Bitwarden is mainly online only, but does support card/ID autofill and allows users to self-host their data if desired.
Not overly familiar with other password managers, but it would not surprise me if one of them out there has the best of both worlds.
I know lastpass does but they lost my trust after the breach.
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Thanks for this!! I became spoiled with Arc’s UI, but it’s a Chrome based browser. This looks like it’s the same experience without the bs.
Yeah. Zen is a bit newer and I’d say not quite as slick an experience yet, but it has come a long way in the last couple months and is getting very good
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True, but if an adblocker no longer works on a specific browser, change your browser! I started using Netscape back in '94, and lost count on how many browsers I've tested and used in the past... Holy shit, 30+ years!!
30+ years!
.....fuck off, '94 wasn't 30.... counts on fingers several times
.....Shit.....
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Chrome forked Webkit in 2012 to create Blink. It is reasonable to assume they have somewhat diverged since.
Ahhh TIL
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Meanwhile ublock origin works fine in Fennec/Firefox Android.
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True, but if an adblocker no longer works on a specific browser, change your browser! I started using Netscape back in '94, and lost count on how many browsers I've tested and used in the past... Holy shit, 30+ years!!
I use Palemoon for the nostalgia but also because of the best theme around, Moonscape
Netscape will forever be my number one.
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https://www.tomshardware.com/news/youtube-responds-to-delayed-loading-in-rival-browser-complaints, for instance.
Or https://www.zdnet.com/article/former-mozilla-exec-google-has-sabotaged-firefox-for-years/, for an older one.
As for how to fix it, Mozilla tend to do a pretty good job of eventually working around Google's bullshit, so keeping the browser updated is a good first step.
Since Google tends to roll this stuff out regionally and doing A/B testing, though, the best way is to identify what specific handicap they're hassling you with (which specific features don't work or don't work right, when they work properly on chrome), and look for an updated add on or userscript to fix that particular issue.
Or you can just look for a generic YouTube or Google Docs "enhancer" add on and hope it fixes the issue without making the whole user experience too different from what you're used to.
Would you happen to know whether this is something that a UserAgent spoofer would suffice to get around?
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No horizontal tab grouping. Tab groups on Chrome are perfect, and the Firefox tab extensions all suck in comparison.
That said, I'm still using Firefox today because the internet is unusable without a good ad blocker.
Tab groups and vertical tabs are at least on Nightly now; you can enable them in settings.
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Chill dude, I’m just going to the ATM machine to put in my PIN number to take out some money.
nottheopbutok
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If you're still using Chrome, do yourself a favour and install Firefox.
Main reason I don't is cuz:
Avoid Gecko-based browsers like Firefox as they're currently much more vulnerable to exploitation and inherently add a huge amount of attack surface. Gecko doesn't have a WebView implementation (GeckoView is not a WebView implementation), so it has to be used alongside the Chromium-based WebView rather than instead of Chromium, which means having the remote attack surface of two separate browser engines instead of only one. Firefox / Gecko also bypass or cripple a fair bit of the upstream and GrapheneOS hardening work for apps. Worst of all, Firefox does not have internal sandboxing on Android. This is despite the fact that Chromium semantic sandbox layer on Android is implemented via the OS isolatedProcess feature, which is a very easy to use boolean property for app service processes to provide strong isolation with only the ability to communicate with the app running them via the standard service API. Even in the desktop version, Firefox's sandbox is still substantially weaker (especially on Linux) and lacks full support for isolating sites from each other rather than only containing content as a whole. The sandbox has been gradually improving on the desktop but it isn't happening for their Android browser yet.
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What issues do people even have with firefox? Its a browser, it seems fast enough. Isn't that all most people need from a browser
Security and sandboxing are important, weak points on the android implementation.
