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  • M [email protected]

    The documentation has long since been changed.

    Note that the anon user is able to become root without a password by default, as a development convenience. To prevent this, remove anon from the wheel group and it will no longer be able to run /bin/su.

    https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/commit/a2a6bc534868773b9320ec3ca7399283cf7a375b (this seems to have also switched to gender neutral language in other parts.'of the documentation and comments as well).

    Original drama: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814

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    Ok, fair enough then. Could have been a simple misunderstanding.

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      the EU wants backdoors to encryptions, so eu not any better.

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      It certainly is the lesser evil though.

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        what r they gonna do if it's open source and doesn't collect data.
        worry more about ur OS

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        I’m not naive enough anymore for this kind of trust.

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          Existence? Because somebody used a wrong pronoun?

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          They refused to use the right pronoun. One is a mistake. The other is a choice.

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            Once Servo is finished, we might have a browser rennaisance (I hope)

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              Once Servo is finished, we might have a browser rennaisance (I hope)

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              That would be nice. I know lately I've been playing around with gopher sites with command line browsers. It's been fun seeing what others have made.

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                Ladybird says 2026. Given the current state and progress, I believe it may be quite usable by then. I use it sometimes for basic surfing and leaving forum comments. It works surprisingly well often though it is still far from general use. I think the dev team tries to use it themselves for things like Discord and GutHub. They did a demo last month where it “almost” ran Gmail.

                I am not sure that Servo has set a timeline. I expect it to take longer.

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                If you don't mind my asking, what forums do you use? I'm trying to find new communities.

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                  Transphobic main dev ruined the project for me

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                  Here we fucking go again.

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                    They refused to use the right pronoun. One is a mistake. The other is a choice.

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                    They refused to accept a PR from a random person with just one single word change for a string that only the developer himself is seeing.

                    I think the developer has all the rights not to accept such a PR which adds nothing to the program. And I think people that really care about gender inclusivity should stop focusing on this useless nitpicks, which makes inclusivity appear like made up by a bunch of trolls.

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                      How does one have a donation = no influence policy?

                      Huge companies donate to make open apps like this reliant on them. Then they threaten to pull the donation if that doesn't happen...

                      Strong Copyleft licenses protect from this by allowing others to fork and keep an app going without being taken advantage of.

                      If Google donates 1 billion dollars tomorrow, and over several months, Ladybird will expand to use that money.
                      Then Google can threaten to stop the donations unless LB does something like "make ad blockers worse"

                      It's a web browser. The only money they will make is from donations. Unless they do something wonky with their business model, like charge. Then no one will use it anyway.

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                      Frankly at this point I'd be willing to contribute to a strongly copyleft, privacy focused browser even if it meant yet another fucking 'subscription'

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                        Calling pronouns political is a straight up dog whistle

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                        there may also be the possibility of the dev simply not wanting to define his views publicly out of the blue, because regardless of stance, you will make enemies, potentially hindering the projects development or facing personal repercussions.

                        It should be allowed for someone to not out themselves as either transphobic or an ally. If the person does have issues with pronouns, it's better if they simply keep to themselves instead of loudly proclaiming it. The other way around it's the same - even if someone is pro trans, it might not be suitable for them to openly speak about it - it might even put them in danger.

                        I agree with you that this is often a dog whistle, but it might also be a poor choice of wording.

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                          Just installed it on void. Still not quite usable for daily use but it's not bad.

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                            what r they gonna do if it's open source and doesn't collect data.
                            worry more about ur OS

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                            Ask Mozilla

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                              To go along with the alt right stuff, one of their major donors is Shopify.

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                              So what?

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                                what r they gonna do if it's open source and doesn't collect data.
                                worry more about ur OS

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                                I'm pretty sure my Debian doesn't collect personal data either

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                                  I hate it so much, even when I NEED to go there for help and support, I know I'm lonely the tenth person to ask the same question. I honestly don't know why so many people love this way of support, just document it!

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                                  Also you need an account to even view it. And I've heard they're really trigger-happy about banning the accounts or holding them hostage until you provide a phone number...

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                                    Is there any source for this?

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                                    No, there is no source, because it's an overinflated nothingburger created to stir up controversy and division.

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                                      Transphobic main dev ruined the project for me

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                                      Don't be a dick. The dev is not transphobic, and you know it.

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                                        same slogan everywhere, plant pictures for a strong greenwashing aesthetics, old white men smiling reassuringly. 5/7 homepage.

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                                          Ok, you keep saying that but never explain why/how. Like, why refuse such a small change so aggressively?

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                                          The change was accepted after a short conversation. So to talk about "refusing a small change so aggressively" is total bullshit, like you're trying to start a fight or something.

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