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Do you have “the” or “a” in your language? What language is it?

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  • S [email protected]

    Funny story. I know an old Chinese man who has a stutter. When he starts a sentence he often repeats the the the the the before he gets going. It sounds like removed removed removed. So far no one has confronted him but I always worry it will happen some day.

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    Oh nooo 😭

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    • wendyz@lemmy.mlW [email protected]

      I do. The is “el/la” and a is “un/una”.

      In my dad’s language and my second language, it’s “the” and “a”

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      Yes. In danish either “en” or “et” goes in front of nouns like this: “en kat” and “et hus”. This is equal to “a cat” and “a house”.

      If it’s in specific, it goes at the end of the word instead like this: “katten” and “huset”. This is equal to “the cat” and “the house”.

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      • H [email protected]

        Yes.

        English.

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        I’ve heard of that one. I think the is “the” and a is “a”.

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        • T [email protected]

          I’ve heard of that one. I think the is “the” and a is “a”.

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          I believe that "a" is either "a" or "an"; it depends.

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          • wendyz@lemmy.mlW [email protected]

            I do. The is “el/la” and a is “un/una”.

            In my dad’s language and my second language, it’s “the” and “a”

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            In german we have der/die/das for the and ein/eine for a.

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            • wendyz@lemmy.mlW [email protected]

              I do. The is “el/la” and a is “un/una”.

              In my dad’s language and my second language, it’s “the” and “a”

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              hungarian.

              • "the" is "a" or "az" (the word "that" is also "az")
              • "a" is "egy" (the word "one" is also "egy")

              i think this might be because articles are relatively new in the language.

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              • wendyz@lemmy.mlW [email protected]

                I do. The is “el/la” and a is “un/una”.

                In my dad’s language and my second language, it’s “the” and “a”

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                #16

                If you mean the definite form, then no, Polish doesn't have it. Learning English as a kid was difficult because no teacher could explain it to me in an understandable way.

                I've been learning a little Romanian lately though and it is there. Romanian is such a weird language. The vocabulary is like a mixture of five other languages, the grammar has gendered words and conjugations, yet it has a strict word order, unlike Polish that thanks to the complex grammar allows for very free reordering.

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                • wendyz@lemmy.mlW [email protected]

                  I do. The is “el/la” and a is “un/una”.

                  In my dad’s language and my second language, it’s “the” and “a”

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                  Mandarin:

                  No "the," you just say the noun and that's it.

                  "A" or any other quantity of a noun is generalized as a number, followed by a character indicating quantity, followed by the noun. "An apple" is 一个苹果 (yi ge ping guo), 一 literally means one, 个 is the character that denotes quantity (it's the most common one but some nouns have different quantity adjectives), 苹果 is apple. Two is an exception because there's a special character for it that's different from the number two (两个苹果 as opposed to 二个苹果), but every other number quantity is the same as the number itself.

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                  • tja@sh.itjust.worksT [email protected]

                    In german we have der/die/das for the and ein/eine for a.

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                    Don't tell them about the noun cases though

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                      Icelandic has no word for "a." A noun without a definite article suffix can be either "noun" or "a noun." Then there is a suffix for definite article (epli "apple" -> eplið "the apple"). There is also a slightly more obscure hinn/hin/hið which can mean "the" as a separate word, but that's not really used in most situations.

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                      • wendyz@lemmy.mlW [email protected]

                        I do. The is “el/la” and a is “un/una”.

                        In my dad’s language and my second language, it’s “the” and “a”

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                        No (Korean), and it is what Korean people including myself often have trouble with.

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                        • S [email protected]

                          Funny story. I know an old Chinese man who has a stutter. When he starts a sentence he often repeats the the the the the before he gets going. It sounds like removed removed removed. So far no one has confronted him but I always worry it will happen some day.

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                          A very bad word that we’re not even supposed to say on the internet, believe it or not.

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                          • wendyz@lemmy.mlW [email protected]

                            I do. The is “el/la” and a is “un/una”.

                            In my dad’s language and my second language, it’s “the” and “a”

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                            No we don't (Slovak)

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                            • wendyz@lemmy.mlW [email protected]

                              I do. The is “el/la” and a is “un/una”.

                              In my dad’s language and my second language, it’s “the” and “a”

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                              Yes, we do.

                              "Il/lo/la/i/gli/le" instead of "the", the precise article is chosen taking in consideration gender and plurality. We even have elliptic forms with " l' ," for words starting with a vowel.

                              Then we have "un/uno/una" instead of "a". Again elliptic form "un' " for feminine words starting with a vowel.

                              Italian here 🤌

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                              • wendyz@lemmy.mlW [email protected]

                                I do. The is “el/la” and a is “un/una”.

                                In my dad’s language and my second language, it’s “the” and “a”

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                                No (Lithuanian)

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                                • wendyz@lemmy.mlW [email protected]

                                  I do. The is “el/la” and a is “un/una”.

                                  In my dad’s language and my second language, it’s “the” and “a”

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                                  No. (Finnish). I remember watching english speaking social media influencers Dave Cad (UK) and Chachi Gonzales (USA) who both moved to Finland saying that their english have gone worse through the years because they have begun to drop ”the” and ”a/an” in conversations just like many Finns do when they speak english.

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                                  • tja@sh.itjust.worksT [email protected]

                                    In german we have der/die/das for the and ein/eine for a.

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                                    And also completely unhinged declensions for them... Really, WTF Germany? 😭

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                                    • wendyz@lemmy.mlW [email protected]

                                      I do. The is “el/la” and a is “un/una”.

                                      In my dad’s language and my second language, it’s “the” and “a”

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                                      Yes, it's "le/la" and "un/une" in French

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                                      • wendyz@lemmy.mlW [email protected]

                                        I do. The is “el/la” and a is “un/una”.

                                        In my dad’s language and my second language, it’s “the” and “a”

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                                        o, a, os, as for "the"

                                        um, uma, uns, umas for "a"

                                        both lists mean: singular masculine, singular feminine, plural masculine, plural feminine.

                                        and if the gender is unknown or mixed you use the masculine

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          Portuguese, we do and we use it in everything. Even something simple like "for my Father" most of us say "for the my Father".

                                          "Sou filho do meu pai"

                                          Translating literally becomes:

                                          "am son of the my Father"

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                                          That's not true for all Portuguese speakers. Most brazilian northeasterners don't use it as you described, as it's unnecessary.

                                          Edit: The way I would say the sentences above:

                                          "Pra meu pai"
                                          "Sou filho de meu pai"

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