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Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.

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  • D [email protected]

    Ability to pay for anything legal implies accountability. I doubt payment processors are creating these rules because they're afraid of Jesus.

    They just did the math and there's probably a ton of disputes/chargebacks on certain content.

    Should two consenting adults be able to pay each other for whatever the fuck - absolutely. But dumb pipe only sounds really good until you get scammed.

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    I doubt payment processors are creating these rules because they're afraid of Jesus

    For starters, the biggest owners of both Visa and Mastercard are Mormons, so...

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    • F [email protected]

      We need to stop these Christians from oppressing us.

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      I'm already looking into organizing a secularist group, both lobbying in the style of SKG, both uncovering pseudo-secular organizations rebranding christian moralism as "common sense".

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      • I [email protected]

        an unelected duopoly can basically dictate global laws.

        definitely dystopian

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        Dude SWIFT has more financial power and sway than visa and mastercard. They're the folks who manage the network that allows bank transfers to happen nigh instantaneously. So if they block you, you are fucked.

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        • M [email protected]

          Nah they love violence. It keeps the gravy seals as hapless betas.

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          The violent video games though, those are the latest satanic panic I've been aware of thanks to that idiot Jack Thompson

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          • D [email protected]

            None of that is relevant to the other comment's point that these companies should not have that level of authority to dictate what we can or cannot purchase. If it is legal to purchase, then payment processors should not be allowed to deny the purchase. Period.

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            I'm not even sure those titles are legal everywhere.

            Allowing digital purchase of illegal products can very well be criminal for the payment processor in certain regions.

            I mean just look at those titles. "Incest daughter - BDSM".

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              Source.

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              This is why cryptocurrencies were created. getmonero.org

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                Source.

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                G*mers and GabeN throwing a shit fit right now.

                GabeN going to buy more Aston Martins to crash.

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                  I hope that the EU creates a digital currency system that is universal, and for privacy coins to become common. I don't want to deal with American payment processors, because they want to prevent me from supporting the people who make my life better.

                  Payment should be a dumb pipe, allowing me and you to uphold the social contract.

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                  The EU is investigating a digital euro, but you won’t be pleased to learn that one of the key reasons is to increase tracking and compliance. Meaning their stated goal is to be able to restrict how the currency is used, by who, when, and on what. The EU is the very last organisation to ever create and maintain an anonymous and agnostic currency. We have that already with monero.

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                    I'm not even sure those titles are legal everywhere.

                    Allowing digital purchase of illegal products can very well be criminal for the payment processor in certain regions.

                    I mean just look at those titles. "Incest daughter - BDSM".

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                    Which is why the retailer, Steam, already restricts certain regions from buying titles if they are deemed illegal in that region.

                    Again, it is not the authority of the payment processors to dictate what people can and cannot purchase. Period. No excuses or justifications will be accepted.

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                      They've been pulling this shit for years. It's just been to stuff you agree with. You think the zoo porn just and drawn CSAM just disappeared from the big platforms and search engines because it was the right thing to do? Nah it was the processors and ad agencies. Pressure from capital. People just didn't care then because they agreed with it.

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                      Drawn and CSAM don't go together

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                        I'm already looking into organizing a secularist group, both lobbying in the style of SKG, both uncovering pseudo-secular organizations rebranding christian moralism as "common sense".

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                        uncovering, documenting, and analyzing them is important. even compiling other's work on a blog is useful

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                        • F [email protected]

                          They might sort of have to do this or risk being cut off, given the loss of US Net Neutrality and the new pro-business-rights administration.

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                          We really also need payment neutrality. I don't like the content that's being removed, but I really don't like that visa gets to decide that websites are allowed to show, sell, and everything else. I don't give half a damn if someone decides to swipe their card at the heroin and machine gun store, visa shouldn't be the one deciding that they can't make that transaction

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                          • wahots@pawb.socialW [email protected]

                            I wish that was the case. It's mostly just extreme right lobbying groups like Focus on the Family and the Alliance Defending Freedom, the same groups that control the far right, exert colonial control over impoverished African countries, and generally make the world a worse place for everyone. The same groups that manufactured cases to screw up Dobbs, Wedding cake lawsuits, and death penalty laws for LGBTQ citizens of Uganda.

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                            The NGO called “Collective Shout” is behind this one. They are a feminist organisation against the objectification of women and the sexualisation of girls.

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                              That's the fucking thing. It's played up to the point that kids might find it and like it.

                              It wouldn't be a problem if they didn't fucking have conventions celebrating it. With kids.

                              Or, you know. On FUCKING STEAM.

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                              I think you should be more concerned about easily accessible things like hentai sites, weirdos, elsagate, etc. I don't know if there are any free hentai games on Steam (and if there are, they shouldn't be free), but children certainly shouldn't have free access to Steam (or even the internet in general), and if some parents kids can just spend their parents money on hentai/porn/whatever, then maybe those parents should rethink their parenting methods and pay more attention to their kids, imho.

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                                Source.

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                                new gamestore named Steaming Hot

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                                  And literally not a single one of them is useful for the purpose of quick, efficient, and secure transactions.

                                  Blockchains are slow and inefficient by design, since they need to build consensus. On any sufficiently popular blockchain, transactions are either fast or secure, never both.

                                  The "fix" that the crypto industry has come up with is to re-invent banks, except with even more crime and virtually no regulations. Now you're just entrusting FTX with your coins to enjoy "immediate" transfers, how could that possibly go wrong?

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                                  getmonero.org 1 minute average confirmation time, private by default. Eth average confirmation time is 6 seconds and right now it's doing 16 transactions per second, not counting L2s. Blockchains are way more secure than a centralized database controlled by a financial institution that can freeze or deny you the right to use your money or fat-finger your life savings away with no recourse.

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                                  • robocall@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                    If you can't buy these games on Steam anymore, where can you buy them?

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                                    either patreon or itch-io. But it does depend on the creator. You’ll find many Japanese games on dl-site for example.

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                                    • D [email protected]

                                      Which is why the retailer, Steam, already restricts certain regions from buying titles if they are deemed illegal in that region.

                                      Again, it is not the authority of the payment processors to dictate what people can and cannot purchase. Period. No excuses or justifications will be accepted.

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                                      You are still refusing to acknowledge that regional legislation can easily prohibit purchases from sources that facilitate illegal products.

                                      I have never heard of a case where payment processors refuse to authorize payment of a legal product because they don't like the product.

                                      Do you comprehend how big of a problem it is if a payment processor can't authorize payments to steam? That's not something they do for the fun of it. It's because there are legal hurdles. Everyday they can't authorize payments is lost revenue, and risk of losing customers.

                                      I'm sorry, but you will just have to source your incest porn games from somewhere else.

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        I was surprised to see that you are correct. 173 StGB only mentions "Beischlaf" and that is indeed only vaginal intercourse. You learn something new every day.

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                                        Sup babe, wanna netflix and Beischlaf?

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                                        • robocall@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                          If you can't buy these games on Steam anymore, where can you buy them?

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                                          JAST, Kagura, DlSite, Itch, Patreon, and GOG are some vendors. I recommend JAST and Kagura, since they are dedicated to perverse games. DlSite is good if you want to buy Japanese exclusive games, and then pirate the unofficially translated versions.

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