Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.
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Well then stuff your puritanical BS. Stop making your discomfort towards something that causes no harm into someone else’s problem.
As long as the shit is on the internet where kids can find it, i'm gonna have problems with it.
Do you think Lemmy checks for age?
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Well after a bit of research it seems i was wrong with incest porn. Even the act is not punishable as long as it is not vaginal sex
I was surprised to see that you are correct. 173 StGB only mentions "Beischlaf" and that is indeed only vaginal intercourse. You learn something new every day.
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There is a lot of talk dancing around the issue here. This isn't an American thing or a Puritan thing. This is purely a capitalism thing. They have been doing this for years. Do you think lolicon got forced off of every major platform for moral reasons? It breaks laws in various counties that the web hosts and payment processors operate in. Wincest porn, CNC porn, Zoo Porn, NSFL stuff. It's all illegal somewhere. These companies are chasing profits. Those niche topics mentioned above lock them out of expanding into some places. Like China. They don't give a fuck about the ethics of the content. They care that they're loosing money by not being able to conduct business in those markets. They care that hosting it makes them a target and possible have to deal with law enforment of some country, fines, or vigilante style attacks on their network. You'll loose your little family harem video game. They don't care. They're making billions processing the main narket. It's capitalism and the global economy that's making your platforms more conservative.
"It's just good business." It pisses me off.
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Well in germany doing porn that implies incest or csam even if the actors are not related or over 18 can still get you jail time
When I am dictator, I will reverse this. All the porn that was banned will now be printed on government printing presses and mailed to everyone's mailbox by government decree. You will not be able to turn it off.
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They might sort of have to do this or risk being cut off, given the loss of US Net Neutrality and the new pro-business-rights administration.
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There is a lot of talk dancing around the issue here. This isn't an American thing or a Puritan thing. This is purely a capitalism thing. They have been doing this for years. Do you think lolicon got forced off of every major platform for moral reasons? It breaks laws in various counties that the web hosts and payment processors operate in. Wincest porn, CNC porn, Zoo Porn, NSFL stuff. It's all illegal somewhere. These companies are chasing profits. Those niche topics mentioned above lock them out of expanding into some places. Like China. They don't give a fuck about the ethics of the content. They care that they're loosing money by not being able to conduct business in those markets. They care that hosting it makes them a target and possible have to deal with law enforment of some country, fines, or vigilante style attacks on their network. You'll loose your little family harem video game. They don't care. They're making billions processing the main narket. It's capitalism and the global economy that's making your platforms more conservative.
"It's just good business." It pisses me off.
You're like the negative photo of a boomer. "Everything I don't like is capitalism!"
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Steam should accept bitcoin or some other crypto as default for all titles and only use card for "safe" titles
Steam users are mostly tech savvy enough to do it
Steam used to accept Bitcoin, they stopped when the transaction fees made it unusable. Every time I remember that I get really pissed off, had the block size been increased back then Bitcoin would still be accepted in the many places it was (Steam wasn't the only one, lots of stores online used to accept it), but because they kept promising a magic solution that never manifested people lost hope and jumped ship (which did solved the problem as nowadays only investors use Bitcoin, so a lot less transactions, a lot more value in them, and higher fees matter less)
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Steam used to accept Bitcoin, they stopped when the transaction fees made it unusable. Every time I remember that I get really pissed off, had the block size been increased back then Bitcoin would still be accepted in the many places it was (Steam wasn't the only one, lots of stores online used to accept it), but because they kept promising a magic solution that never manifested people lost hope and jumped ship (which did solved the problem as nowadays only investors use Bitcoin, so a lot less transactions, a lot more value in them, and higher fees matter less)
well now we have lightning maybe the time has come to try again.
Having already had an implementation working should hopefully help
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They had Bitcoin integration for quite a while. It was removed during a system change, probably because very few people used it
i had no idea and i've held crypto in some form or another since 2014. Maybe it wasnt marketed well
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If you can't buy these games on Steam anymore, where can you buy them?
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Ability to pay for anything legal implies accountability. I doubt payment processors are creating these rules because they're afraid of Jesus.
They just did the math and there's probably a ton of disputes/chargebacks on certain content.
Should two consenting adults be able to pay each other for whatever the fuck - absolutely. But dumb pipe only sounds really good until you get scammed.
I doubt payment processors are creating these rules because they're afraid of Jesus
For starters, the biggest owners of both Visa and Mastercard are Mormons, so...
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We need to stop these Christians from oppressing us.
I'm already looking into organizing a secularist group, both lobbying in the style of SKG, both uncovering pseudo-secular organizations rebranding christian moralism as "common sense".
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an unelected duopoly can basically dictate global laws.
definitely dystopian
Dude SWIFT has more financial power and sway than visa and mastercard. They're the folks who manage the network that allows bank transfers to happen nigh instantaneously. So if they block you, you are fucked.
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Nah they love violence. It keeps the gravy seals as hapless betas.
The violent video games though, those are the latest satanic panic I've been aware of thanks to that idiot Jack Thompson
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None of that is relevant to the other comment's point that these companies should not have that level of authority to dictate what we can or cannot purchase. If it is legal to purchase, then payment processors should not be allowed to deny the purchase. Period.
I'm not even sure those titles are legal everywhere.
Allowing digital purchase of illegal products can very well be criminal for the payment processor in certain regions.
I mean just look at those titles. "Incest daughter - BDSM".
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This is why cryptocurrencies were created. getmonero.org
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G*mers and GabeN throwing a shit fit right now.
GabeN going to buy more Aston Martins to crash.
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I hope that the EU creates a digital currency system that is universal, and for privacy coins to become common. I don't want to deal with American payment processors, because they want to prevent me from supporting the people who make my life better.
Payment should be a dumb pipe, allowing me and you to uphold the social contract.
wrote last edited by [email protected]The EU is investigating a digital euro, but you won’t be pleased to learn that one of the key reasons is to increase tracking and compliance. Meaning their stated goal is to be able to restrict how the currency is used, by who, when, and on what. The EU is the very last organisation to ever create and maintain an anonymous and agnostic currency. We have that already with monero.
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I'm not even sure those titles are legal everywhere.
Allowing digital purchase of illegal products can very well be criminal for the payment processor in certain regions.
I mean just look at those titles. "Incest daughter - BDSM".
Which is why the retailer, Steam, already restricts certain regions from buying titles if they are deemed illegal in that region.
Again, it is not the authority of the payment processors to dictate what people can and cannot purchase. Period. No excuses or justifications will be accepted.
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They've been pulling this shit for years. It's just been to stuff you agree with. You think the zoo porn just and drawn CSAM just disappeared from the big platforms and search engines because it was the right thing to do? Nah it was the processors and ad agencies. Pressure from capital. People just didn't care then because they agreed with it.
Drawn and CSAM don't go together
