China to impose 34% retaliatory tariff on all goods imported from the U.S.
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They tariffed US. US finally responds. Now China wants to tariff that, ok. All I can say, Walmart is screwed if they don’t switch back to US first.
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Umm no the rest of the world can trade with each other just fine it's just trade involving the states that will be hindered.
Yeah I misread the prompt as if everyone put up tariffs lol.
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I mean China has stated over and over and responded over and over in a way that states China would not willingly become a dominant force. China's whole thing is they only care about their country and their people and what ever happens in the world it's not their business.
But here's some historical examples for what I'm talking about.
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Ukraine Russian war. Yes, China sells drone parts and machinery to Russia. That's constantly talked about as if this is absolute proof that China is supporting Russia's war against Ukraine. However, Ukraine is just as dependent on these parts and machinery as Russia is. So by that logic, China is supporting Ukraine in the war.
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Myanmar. Is currently in a massive civil war. Myanmar is completely under China's sphere of influence to the point where no external actor is willing to interfere. Yet China is willing to just let the people do whatever they feel is right. Even though it's literally causing a genocide in the nation.
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Sudan. Basically the same as Myanmar. Though an interesting side story to this is Sudan had Chinese tanks that South Sudan did not. Those tanks absolutely crushed the T-72 tanks that South Sudan has. Though that kind of went sideways because South Sudan simply avoided the tanks and attacked in other areas. But if anyone is wondering, yes China's military equipment far out paces Russia.
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Vietnam. After the Sino-Vietnam war, China controlled about 20% of Vietnam. They declared victory and then told the Vietnam government that they respect their sovereignty and just simply left. It was the last war that China ever committed itself to.
Ultimately, China's whole rise to power is one of completely unwillingness to get involved in anything. It's one of the reasons no one respects China as a super power. However, with USA doing what it's doing, it by default goes to China. I don't know what it means ultimately, but at least for the near future, China is going to allow insane genocide in so much of the world. Something that USA would have gone to war over. They won't be dominant, but are you sure that's what you want?
Yeah, from my understanding China is only interested in it's own self growth. While the Belt and Road initiative has certainly been beneficial for the global south, especially when compared to Neo-colonialism via the IMF and World Bank, it's still ultimately for China's sake. They have no interest in promoting Chinese style Communism to other countries, at least currently. Whether that will change or not I don't know. Their current military aid towards the perpetuators of genocide in those conflicts is absolutely unacceptable.
What I want is an international organization where everyone has a vote and no one has a veto, where international law can actually be implemented instead of ignored. Where human rights violations documented by Amnesty International, HRW, Euro-Med Monitor, ect will be materially addressed by the global community regardless of who's committing the violations. To that end, I oppose all Imperialism, Colonialism, and Neo-colonialism.
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Well the weirdest thing to me is I am saying China becoming the world's super power will lead to genocide. Not caused by China itself, but by China's inactions. And my proof is historical from Sudan and Myanmar. Yet people are calling me a pro-China shill? It's odd at best.
The problem is you're not saying the magic words. Actually parsing an argument is out of fashion, so you gotta sprinkle your posts with stuff like "free Taiwan" or "fuck Putin" or whatever, so
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Look at Cuba. Now look at the US. Now look at Cuba again.
Okay, now image Cuba but without the public health care, housing, jobs programs, and mass transit.
In your exampke Cuba is the rest of the world, not a small backwater embargoed country.
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They could drop all tariffs tonight, but the inertia of new trade deals being made to circumvent the US is pretty strong. It will keep strengthening while the US rots on the vine because they’ve been geopolitically exiled for having revealed themselves to be governmentally retarded.
Especially in everything related to security, like army, navy, space. If we can't trust the USA when we need to use the weapons we bought, what's the use buying them in the first place.
This is really shooting thyself in the foot, you can't just walk back from that disaster.
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It will be used to bail out companies, who suffer to financially survive. The money will go to the higher managements though.
So government controlled companies.
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If every country he puts tariffs on ends up implementing their own retaliatory tariffs, what would happen?
The United States descends to the level of economic relevance as South Africa and the rest of the world continues as usual.
Trade tariffs can work if they are used as a scalpel, If they are applied very precisely and explicitly they kind of achieve the desired effect. Trump is just wielding them around like a mallet and is repeatedly hitting himself in the groin while everyone stands to save distance away and watches with mild amusement.
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If every country he puts tariffs on ends up implementing their own retaliatory tariffs, what would happen?
So a tariff is like punching the other guy but also punching yourself, only the US is doing that to a lot of people so all the other countries get hit a few times sure but the US is beating itself black and blue.
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If every country he puts tariffs on ends up implementing their own retaliatory tariffs, what would happen?
The rest of the world starts building a new world order and economic system, one that will be a lot less advantageous to the USA than the one they just trashed.
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Hopefully the political correction happens fast. The last two tariff wars created massive depressions. The Great depression saw a landslide democratic victory and it took Republicans 60 years to become relevant again. This could be good.
Can we please this time support the Communist and Socialist organizations that did armed protest in order to get those actual results? Can we please please learn from history and not allow the capitalist to continue to control the means of production? Because in another 100 years we'll be in the exact same place with the ruling class trying to destroy the social safetynets that only served as temporary measures.
We need a real systemic change in who deciding how the economy is run and who's interest it is meant to serve.
How long will we keep pretending a bunch of 20-30 year old white dudes in the 1700s had the best idea of how to run things?
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China buys American food, I think.
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Yeah, from my understanding China is only interested in it's own self growth. While the Belt and Road initiative has certainly been beneficial for the global south, especially when compared to Neo-colonialism via the IMF and World Bank, it's still ultimately for China's sake. They have no interest in promoting Chinese style Communism to other countries, at least currently. Whether that will change or not I don't know. Their current military aid towards the perpetuators of genocide in those conflicts is absolutely unacceptable.
What I want is an international organization where everyone has a vote and no one has a veto, where international law can actually be implemented instead of ignored. Where human rights violations documented by Amnesty International, HRW, Euro-Med Monitor, ect will be materially addressed by the global community regardless of who's committing the violations. To that end, I oppose all Imperialism, Colonialism, and Neo-colonialism.
I mean China sells to both sides. They don't really give aid in the traditional way. It's just about money. But yeah, it's pretty messed up just in a completely different way than what the west does.
And I agree with your ideals, but sadly that's definitely not happening in our lifetimes.
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If every country he puts tariffs on ends up implementing their own retaliatory tariffs, what would happen?
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In your exampke Cuba is the rest of the world, not a small backwater embargoed country.
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This was his response. Very sane. Very calm. Not at all unhinged.
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Now that USA will spiral down to deep depression, it’s going to be much easier to get the people behind whatever plan comes next.
So, how about you build a new empire, invade neighboring countries, commit war crimes left and right, and start exterminating people who don’t fit your arbitrary criteria. Germany tried that and it everything worked out perfectly.
Oh, wait…
Well anyway. I’m out of ideas.
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So now the US will have to watch out for Switch 2s and iPhone 17s beings smuggled in at the Canadian border along with the eggs.
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But the deep depression wasn't entered "willingly". Better justification for righteous anger back then.
People can be angry at Trump and that momentum could be utilized by the next candidate. Nah, sounds too elaborate.
You could just form an authoritarian dictator monarchy, and gun down anyone who disagrees. There are many countries that followed this path already.
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They could drop all tariffs tonight, but the inertia of new trade deals being made to circumvent the US is pretty strong. It will keep strengthening while the US rots on the vine because they’ve been geopolitically exiled for having revealed themselves to be governmentally retarded.
It's well understood by business people (at least by competent ones) that when you piss off a customer and drive them away, they stay away.
