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China to impose 34% retaliatory tariff on all goods imported from the U.S.

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  • J [email protected]

    Well the weirdest thing to me is I am saying China becoming the world's super power will lead to genocide. Not caused by China itself, but by China's inactions. And my proof is historical from Sudan and Myanmar. Yet people are calling me a pro-China shill? It's odd at best.

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    The problem is you're not saying the magic words. Actually parsing an argument is out of fashion, so you gotta sprinkle your posts with stuff like "free Taiwan" or "fuck Putin" or whatever, so the LLM they paste your posts into to summarise them can understand them.

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    • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

      Look at Cuba. Now look at the US. Now look at Cuba again.

      Okay, now image Cuba but without the public health care, housing, jobs programs, and mass transit.

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      In your exampke Cuba is the rest of the world, not a small backwater embargoed country.

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      • S [email protected]

        They could drop all tariffs tonight, but the inertia of new trade deals being made to circumvent the US is pretty strong. It will keep strengthening while the US rots on the vine because they’ve been geopolitically exiled for having revealed themselves to be governmentally retarded.

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        Especially in everything related to security, like army, navy, space. If we can't trust the USA when we need to use the weapons we bought, what's the use buying them in the first place.

        This is really shooting thyself in the foot, you can't just walk back from that disaster.

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        • zacryon@feddit.orgZ [email protected]

          It will be used to bail out companies, who suffer to financially survive. The money will go to the higher managements though.

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          So government controlled companies.

          ...

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          • U [email protected]

            If every country he puts tariffs on ends up implementing their own retaliatory tariffs, what would happen?

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            The United States descends to the level of economic relevance as South Africa and the rest of the world continues as usual.

            Trade tariffs can work if they are used as a scalpel, If they are applied very precisely and explicitly they kind of achieve the desired effect. Trump is just wielding them around like a mallet and is repeatedly hitting himself in the groin while everyone stands to save distance away and watches with mild amusement.

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            • U [email protected]

              If every country he puts tariffs on ends up implementing their own retaliatory tariffs, what would happen?

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              So a tariff is like punching the other guy but also punching yourself, only the US is doing that to a lot of people so all the other countries get hit a few times sure but the US is beating itself black and blue.

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              • U [email protected]

                If every country he puts tariffs on ends up implementing their own retaliatory tariffs, what would happen?

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                The rest of the world starts building a new world order and economic system, one that will be a lot less advantageous to the USA than the one they just trashed.

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                • W [email protected]

                  Hopefully the political correction happens fast. The last two tariff wars created massive depressions. The Great depression saw a landslide democratic victory and it took Republicans 60 years to become relevant again. This could be good.

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                  Can we please this time support the Communist and Socialist organizations that did armed protest in order to get those actual results? Can we please please learn from history and not allow the capitalist to continue to control the means of production? Because in another 100 years we'll be in the exact same place with the ruling class trying to destroy the social safetynets that only served as temporary measures.

                  We need a real systemic change in who deciding how the economy is run and who's interest it is meant to serve.

                  How long will we keep pretending a bunch of 20-30 year old white dudes in the 1700s had the best idea of how to run things?

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                  • I [email protected]

                    China buys American food, I think.

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                    https://www.npr.org/2025/02/08/nx-s1-5288119/a-soybean-farmer-recalls-how-he-was-impacted-by-chinese-tariffs-in-trumps-first-term

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                    • K [email protected]

                      Yeah, from my understanding China is only interested in it's own self growth. While the Belt and Road initiative has certainly been beneficial for the global south, especially when compared to Neo-colonialism via the IMF and World Bank, it's still ultimately for China's sake. They have no interest in promoting Chinese style Communism to other countries, at least currently. Whether that will change or not I don't know. Their current military aid towards the perpetuators of genocide in those conflicts is absolutely unacceptable.

                      What I want is an international organization where everyone has a vote and no one has a veto, where international law can actually be implemented instead of ignored. Where human rights violations documented by Amnesty International, HRW, Euro-Med Monitor, ect will be materially addressed by the global community regardless of who's committing the violations. To that end, I oppose all Imperialism, Colonialism, and Neo-colonialism.

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                      I mean China sells to both sides. They don't really give aid in the traditional way. It's just about money. But yeah, it's pretty messed up just in a completely different way than what the west does.

                      And I agree with your ideals, but sadly that's definitely not happening in our lifetimes.

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                      • U [email protected]

                        If every country he puts tariffs on ends up implementing their own retaliatory tariffs, what would happen?

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                        You see, when the US pisses on the rest of the world, the rest of the world gets wet - But when the rest of the world will piss on the US, the US will drown.

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                        • V [email protected]

                          In your exampke Cuba is the rest of the world, not a small backwater embargoed country.

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                          No, The US takes Cuba's place, just as in their example.

                          The US in the past pressured the world to embargo Cuba, now the US is forcing the hand of the rest of the world to work without it. Different causes, similar-lish effects.

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                          • jballs@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

                            This was his response. Very sane. Very calm. Not at all unhinged.

                            .../s

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                            The idea that China "panics" can only be sold to the most gullible.

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                            • chaoscruiser@futurology.todayC [email protected]

                              Now that USA will spiral down to deep depression, it’s going to be much easier to get the people behind whatever plan comes next.

                              So, how about you build a new empire, invade neighboring countries, commit war crimes left and right, and start exterminating people who don’t fit your arbitrary criteria. Germany tried that and it everything worked out perfectly.

                              Oh, wait…

                              Well anyway. I’m out of ideas.

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                              But the deep depression wasn't entered "willingly". Better justification for righteous anger back then.

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                              • P [email protected]

                                So now the US will have to watch out for Switch 2s and iPhone 17s beings smuggled in at the Canadian border along with the eggs.

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                                Gaming consoles declared weapons of mass destr(a/)uction incoming.

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                                • N [email protected]

                                  But the deep depression wasn't entered "willingly". Better justification for righteous anger back then.

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                                  People can be angry at Trump and that momentum could be utilized by the next candidate. Nah, sounds too elaborate.

                                  You could just form an authoritarian dictator monarchy, and gun down anyone who disagrees. There are many countries that followed this path already.

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    They could drop all tariffs tonight, but the inertia of new trade deals being made to circumvent the US is pretty strong. It will keep strengthening while the US rots on the vine because they’ve been geopolitically exiled for having revealed themselves to be governmentally retarded.

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                                    It's well understood by business people (at least by competent ones) that when you piss off a customer and drive them away, they stay away.

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                                    • M [email protected]

                                      I never said we got dumber we've been solidly morons since forever

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                                      Propaganda is a helluva drug

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                                      • ? Guest

                                        Better to be a Black guy in China than a Black guy in the US.

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                                        Lol there is absolutely no way that is the case

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                                        • W [email protected]

                                          The rest of the world starts building a new world order and economic system, one that will be a lot less advantageous to the USA than the one they just trashed.

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                                          I hope one of the first things to change is the ridiculous Intellectual Property laws the US forced on the rest of the world. Those laws benefit the US at the expense of everyone else.

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