Flohmarkt - a Fediverse replacement for Facebook Marketplace

[showroom7561@lemmy.ca]

Maybe just like Facebook Market, simply ignore it? /s

[trickdacy@lemmy.world]

But telling a friend about this starts with the name. Simple names are easier. And that would just start with making it short. Single syllable being best.

[cracks_inthewalls@sh.itjust.works]

Does it? If you set up an instance for your local community/city/whatever, and name it something that makes sense for your intended userbase, I think it would be fine.

It goes from "I sold my couch on FlohMarkt" to "I sold my couch on Local Ottawa Marketplace" for the 'normies' out there. They're not going to care about the underlying software so long as their couch gets sold.

Do recommend a DIY local advertising strategy if trying to get something like this running, though - posters at IRL flea markets, adverts in small community papers for antiques and collectibles, crossposts/links to postings on stuff like MaxSold/Kijiji/Craigslist/GumTree/FB Marketplace/[insert online marketplace operating in your area],that kind of thing.

Focus on the current primary use case of centralized marketplace services (buying shit from your neighbours), then introduce the "Oh yeah, we've also set it up so you can see postings on Local Toronto Marketplace, Local Kingston Marketplace, Marché Local de Montréal" etc. from there.

I really, really think talking to people in terms of specific instances over the overarching platform/protocol is a way around 'normie' confusion about the Fediverse when first trying it, then getting exposure to how it works in practice will help them understand the nitty gritty stuff better. Is this problematic in some cases, like with Lemmy? A little bit, yeah. For something like FlohMarkt? I think less so.

('normie' in quotes 'cause I'm not the biggest fan of the term, but it's a useful shorthand)

[qaz@lemmy.world]

I tried to use it myself and it really isn't ready yet. It's missing so many features that a specialized Lemmy instance seems like a much better alternative.

[zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

I didn't say it was. An important aspect of promoting the adoption of any product or service is having a brand name that is easily pronounceable to facilitate word-of-mouth promotion. It's something that's all the more important for a Fediverse service, given the lack of means to promote Flohmarkt with paid advertising campaigns.

While Flohmarkt works as a brand name in German, it's not immediately clear how to pronounce it in English, versus the easily pronounced Lemmy, Mastodon, Misskey, Pixelfed, Loops, and Friendica. For that reason, 'Flohmarkt' should be kept as the platform's name in German-speaking countries, but be localized as 'Flowmarket' in English-speaking ones.

[jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de]

Do you think Flohmarkt is worse than Volkswagen?

[zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Yes, since the pronunciation of Volkswagen can be inferred from taking 'Volks' as rhyming with 'Folks' and either pronouncing 'wagen' as intended—with 'gen' rhyming with the 'gain' in 'again'—or just pronouncing it as 'wagon'. In contrast, the pronunciation of 'kt' at the end of 'flohmarkt' can't be inferred from an existing English word. Additionally, using the spelling 'flow' disambiguates the English pronunciation of 'floh', especially when dialect is taken into account.

Ultimately, because Volkswagen has had decades of advertisements marketing its proper pronunciation and making the brand name widely-recognized, it has an inherent advantage in terms of brand recognition to start with.

[state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de]

Please stop these idiotic arguments. I don't think you're actually so dumb, that you don't understand what my point was. So you're being willfully obtuse just to annoy other people. Also, Chinese isn't a thing. You probably mean Mandarin Chinese, which does have the highest number of native speakers. But English is still the common language (or lingua franca) across the world, even though it is number 3 in terms of native speakers.

[temperche@discuss.tchncs.de]

Maybe share your vision with the devs or actively contribute yourself to the development of this platform?

[suoko@feddit.it]

iMarket is better?
gStore?
銷 !

[trickdacy@lemmy.world]

I just took a list at some instances and was confused. Is there not a location-specific aspect? When I selected "Local" I got nothing. The only use I had for FB marketplace was buying/selling things locally. Like as a craigslist replacement. Not seeing that on these sites, unfortunately.

[ayyy@sh.itjust.works]

How do I tell someone on the bus to check out this website?

[nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip]

Its even more important to use various word from various language.

English as default also resulting American culture as the most prominent culture.

Newer generation are more acceptable to outside culture, so this will be work.
Not to forget, the rest of non-English society already operate in multi language society and get exposed for various culture.

Years ago, people heavily localized Angliscize a lot of Asian media, but now, people are more accepting foreign naming convention. Just take a look at various FOSS porject in Japanese, Hindi, Persia, or Finnish.

[nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip]

Indonesian here.

Indonesian have highest trilingual population in the world, and our country regularly import foreign pop media, like from Japan, China, Turkiye, French, Argentine, and so on.

That name seems cool and we will never have problem with it.

In fact, a lot of FOSS software in Asia almost always use local language or pop culture reference for their project.
Whether it's in Chinese, Persian, Hindi, Javanese, Japanese, and so on.

[trickdacy@lemmy.world]

No one is saying you cannot have a good German name. Uber is an American company. Shit company but great name. Comes from German and translates to other linguistic communities fairly well

[leadore@lemmy.world]

Fleabuch Maktplatz

[snapz@lemmy.world]

God... remember how fucking simple craigslist was when it hit it's peak? The fact that Grandpa could take a shaky flip phone picture and post a thing you needed right around the corner, no fat or other frivolous horseshit...

Craigslist is still simple last I checked, but the user base left and now dominated by spam from retail and drop shippers masquerading as local people selling goods from their garage.

Nothing gold can stay

[itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Uber isn't a German word tho?

[itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Which is also reasonably close to the German pronunciation (which is something like Flo-marked to an English speaker)

[corkyskog@sh.itjust.works]

Idk. It's still got some uses. My dad got a bunch of industrial refrigerator panels for stupid cheap off Craigslist like 6 months ago.