Plex now want to SELL your personal data
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There are a lot of people here who simply cannot be bothered to figure out remote access
I think being apprehensive is natural when you're entirely left on your own for security, knowing that you could leave yourself vulnerable if you do it incorrectly. Add to this the fact that half the info you'll find on the process is people claiming you just need to open some ports, which you know to be wrong, and it's easy to see why it's hard to trust any advice you find.
Yea, I don't disagree, and I don't actually fault anyone for using plex for it's simplicity of remote configuration.
I do think a lot of people overlook simple workarounds to doing straight reverse proxies. I've used a VPN to access my remote services without issue for a long time. Granted, that's still a prerequisite skill a lot of people don't have, but I think a lot of people already inside the self-host space already have that knowledge. And frankly, self-hosting as a concept stems from this idea that with a little bit of effort, we can free ourselves from corporately owned SAAS companies - it shouldn't be so divisive to be advocating for self-sufficiency.
There's absolutely a place for plex. It's a lot of people's first foray into selfhosting. But I think people miss the opportunity to learn a new skill when they decide they're willing to put up with abuse instead of taking the hint that it's time to migrate.
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How is someone who can't manage to copy and paste "www.my-jellyfin-server.com" into the address bar going to figure out where to get a Plex account?
This thread is comparing the ease of setup between Plex and Jellyfin and having to purchase your own domain and set a bunch of stuff up on your own definitely doesn't make for an easier install. You might be right about people's ability to type in a URL, but this definitely illustrates the added difficulty in setting up Jellyfin.
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So I searched, and all of the results were talking about setting up a VPN or a reverse proxy or whatever.
The best thing is, you can't use a reverse proxy with it, it doesn't even support it.
I don't even know what a reverse proxy is
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Kodi exists however it's a client only, it is not made to host content. You are looking for jellyfin
Eh, I'm pretty sure it is. Haven't had Kodi running for a while, but I used it on a Raspberry Pi with an USB HDD with my content long before I had Jellyfin. Though it cannot stream the content over network, just display it on the machines video output (which is what media PCs do)
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You as server operator also have to check what device your mom has and point her to what app download, because Jellyfin doesn't have an app for everything
True though that's less server operator and more "just being helpful to your mom". That said it seems nowadays that a Jellyfin app is available on most devices/ecosystems (or maybe I just don't have experience with enough devices to have an accurate idea).
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If your neighbour can also get symmetrical internet with a residential contract, then that would be the better example to prove his point wrong.
Sure, but I don't get their bill now do I?
A business contract is not a good comparison because they usually are symmetrical for a premium price regardless of the quality of the residential internet in your area.
Which was the point of me bringing it up... my price is likely higher than my neighbor. But I know that the same speeds are available. Symmetric.
Once again though... Without more information we can't actually compare but at face value... I pay 5.89 times for for presumably 8-80 times more speed. EVEN ON MY BUSINESS CONTRACT. Hard to say that their service is categorically better than mine...
Man, you're still missing the point and you wonder why I had to resort to hyperbole. Nvm, since you don't actually seem interested with disproving his point effectively and still want to compare prices despite it being irrelevant to the actual point, there's not much use with continuing this discussion. You've provided information that proved half his point about US internet is incorrect, and that's good enough for me.
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They also serve you their version of the show with ads if you have the same show on your Plex. I have Ghost in the Shell S.A.C on Plex and I've never watched their version but it sure as shit showed up in my "continue watching". The same thing happened when my gf was watching Midsomer Murders.
What devices?
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If you are advanced enough to run a docker image with Plex, you can do the same with Jellyfin
You don't even have to use docker for Jellyfin, you can install the server as a regular program
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TV apps.
What is wrong with Jellyfin's TV app? I use it on my Android TV and I don't have any problems
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It’s all fake and manipulated there anyway.
I'm afraid it will be fake and manipulated here in the future.
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Goddammit... Right after I got the lifetime pass...
It literally gives you a gigantic “hey we want to sell your data. Do you want to allow that” prompt when you open it. They didn’t even make the “no, don’t sell my data” button grey and tiny like so many cookie prompts do. Plex went out of their way to put it up front and center, instead of quietly burying it in an obscure opt-out. There are plenty of perfectly valid complaints about Plex… But if a company wants to sell my data, (and here’s a spoiler warning: They all want to) this is how it should be handled.
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Or...If feeling a little bit paranoid, run a second copy of Jellyfin. That's what I do. Works well for me.
Yup, just spin up a second Docker image for your porn Jellyfin server. Copy your transcoding settings over from the existing image, and point the new image at different media folders.
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I have a lifetime Plex pass but still I am considering switching.
Currently I have both Jellyfin and Plex on the same libraries but Jellyfin doesn’t have support for chromecast (on iOS and Firefox) nor support for offline . (Not) covering neither my at home nor travelling use cases
Can you clarify what you mean by Chromecast support? I have a Chromecast device and it has the jellyfin app on it. Works like a charm without issues. I have a feeling you mean something else though?
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Meanwhile, poor Jellyfin just quietly doing the job.
The client apps are a lot better these days too.
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What devices?
Nvidia shield
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Kodi exists however it's a client only, it is not made to host content. You are looking for jellyfin
That was what I was leaning towards. Do you (or does anyone) happen to know if it is easy to get going on Bazzite? And if so, does it play nice with a Steam controller?
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I assumed they already were.
No chance Plex wasn't making money from those who didn't pay for Plex Pass.
I know, right? Any 'free' service with that much infrastructure to support, is more than likely selling your data. I guess, it's kind of refreshing that a company comes right out and tells you they're about to bend you over the barrel.
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Did they really kill off free photo backup? That's so incredibly shitty, they even compressed them!
Yeah it was over after pixel 3 or a little before iirc! Although to me it was obvious they would eventually kill it off because that's soooo much storage. It was just a trick to get people bought into Google photos (which is a great service but much too expensive for me and now basically totally replaced by Immich)
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Can you clarify what you mean by Chromecast support? I have a Chromecast device and it has the jellyfin app on it. Works like a charm without issues. I have a feeling you mean something else though?
He's probably referring to just Chromecast without the Google TV module. Jellyfin works great for me as well on the Chromecast w/GTV
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FWIW apparently this is talking about their free content, not about user content.
And that makes a difference to you?
