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  • candyman337@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

    They also serve you their version of the show with ads if you have the same show on your Plex. I have Ghost in the Shell S.A.C on Plex and I've never watched their version but it sure as shit showed up in my "continue watching". The same thing happened when my gf was watching Midsomer Murders.

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    What devices?

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      If you are advanced enough to run a docker image with Plex, you can do the same with Jellyfin

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      You don't even have to use docker for Jellyfin, you can install the server as a regular program

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        TV apps.

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        What is wrong with Jellyfin's TV app? I use it on my Android TV and I don't have any problems

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          It’s all fake and manipulated there anyway.

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          I'm afraid it will be fake and manipulated here in the future.

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            Goddammit... Right after I got the lifetime pass...

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            It literally gives you a gigantic “hey we want to sell your data. Do you want to allow that” prompt when you open it. They didn’t even make the “no, don’t sell my data” button grey and tiny like so many cookie prompts do. Plex went out of their way to put it up front and center, instead of quietly burying it in an obscure opt-out. There are plenty of perfectly valid complaints about Plex… But if a company wants to sell my data, (and here’s a spoiler warning: They all want to) this is how it should be handled.

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              Or...If feeling a little bit paranoid, run a second copy of Jellyfin. That's what I do. Works well for me.

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              Yup, just spin up a second Docker image for your porn Jellyfin server. Copy your transcoding settings over from the existing image, and point the new image at different media folders.

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                I have a lifetime Plex pass but still I am considering switching.
                Currently I have both Jellyfin and Plex on the same libraries but Jellyfin doesn’t have support for chromecast (on iOS and Firefox) nor support for offline . (Not) covering neither my at home nor travelling use cases 😕

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                Can you clarify what you mean by Chromecast support? I have a Chromecast device and it has the jellyfin app on it. Works like a charm without issues. I have a feeling you mean something else though?

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                  Meanwhile, poor Jellyfin just quietly doing the job.

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                  The client apps are a lot better these days too.

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                    What devices?

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                    Nvidia shield

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                    • M [email protected]

                      Kodi exists however it's a client only, it is not made to host content. You are looking for jellyfin

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                      That was what I was leaning towards. Do you (or does anyone) happen to know if it is easy to get going on Bazzite? And if so, does it play nice with a Steam controller?

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                        I assumed they already were.

                        No chance Plex wasn't making money from those who didn't pay for Plex Pass.

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                        I know, right? Any 'free' service with that much infrastructure to support, is more than likely selling your data. I guess, it's kind of refreshing that a company comes right out and tells you they're about to bend you over the barrel.

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                        • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techS [email protected]

                          Did they really kill off free photo backup? That's so incredibly shitty, they even compressed them!

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                          Yeah it was over after pixel 3 or a little before iirc! Although to me it was obvious they would eventually kill it off because that's soooo much storage. It was just a trick to get people bought into Google photos (which is a great service but much too expensive for me and now basically totally replaced by Immich)

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                            Can you clarify what you mean by Chromecast support? I have a Chromecast device and it has the jellyfin app on it. Works like a charm without issues. I have a feeling you mean something else though?

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                            He's probably referring to just Chromecast without the Google TV module. Jellyfin works great for me as well on the Chromecast w/GTV

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                              FWIW apparently this is talking about their free content, not about user content.

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                              And that makes a difference to you?

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                                Tbh, the way people push Jellyfin every single time Plex is mentioned is so extremely annoying that I'm now even less inclined to use it, especially the way the JF zelots completely ignored the legit reason that most people use it.

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                                Not sure if you understand this or not, but you using, or not using jellyfin doesn't affect anyone but you. 🤷‍♂️

                                If you don't wanna use it, then don't use it. You're still wrong, but that's up to you lil buddy.

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                                  I haven't used Plex, so I'm not exactly sure what it's doing, but I'm guessing it presents you some sort of search to find the server? Isn't that pretty much the same as a domain name, just w/ a search bar instead of a URL bar? If your domain is easy to remember, I guess I don't see an issue. I've also heard you can connect to multiple servers, so maybe that's what people are talking about.

                                  Regardless, I think Jellyfin could handle both. Get some community-funded STUN relay servers to handle discovery and implement a way (if it doesn't already) to have your client connect to multiple servers. There should also be a way to copy all the configs from one client to another (say, a QR code or UUID, settings copied over the same STUN server).

                                  My main issue is that this could open up servers to more potential attack vectors, and Jellyfin already has some security weaknesses. But other than that, I'd be happy to help implement this sort of thing, a STUN server can be run on as little as a $5 VPS.

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                                  I haven't used Plex in a decade and I use Jellyfin, what you're describing sounds perfect. I read up a bit on STUN servers and it's what Syncthing uses, but they also mantain discovery and relay servers (and anyone can host one and can be added to the public list). Security wise they seem to be doing fine?(I'm not an expert, just an informed user)

                                  Idk what combo Jellyfin would benefit the most from; are relay servers needed? The workload is similar but probably higher on average, people stream more often than they do backups

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                                    What is wrong with Jellyfin's TV app? I use it on my Android TV and I don't have any problems

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                                    Not available for my Samsung or the kid's Visio TVs

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                                      NordVPN is better than Mullvad

                                      Off topic, but what? Is Nord doing wacky shit with network settings?

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                                      I'm not a security expert but my guts (and the many things I read about this stuff over many years) tell me that cheap highly marketed VPNs like Nord seek the less informed users that sign up because half of their favorite youtubers sent them there, the default M.O. is install the (proprietary) app. It might be possible to use them safely but it's not what's happening to 99% of the customers.

                                      They operate in grey legal areas, there are many scandals over the years, they write in their TOS that they can change the terms themselves without notice, if you use their service, you agree at any time.

                                      When I wrote that they do what they want w your network, this is what I'm referring to; idk about the "settings", more like selling access to your residential line (perhaps to other VPN customers)

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                                        And that makes a difference to you?

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                                        It does, yeah.

                                        If they are providing the content, they can see that they are providing the content and that much is obvious.

                                        If you are providing the content, you wouldn't expect that they can identify what you are watching.

                                        That's the difference to me, yeah.

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                                          Understandable. I don't worry that much myself since I haven't heard anything bad happening yet. And with ro rights to media, potential damage at least should be pretty limited.

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                                          And with ro rights to media, potential damage at least should be pretty limited.

                                          Depends entirely on where you live I would think.

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