Plex now want to SELL your personal data
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I have a lifetime Plex pass but still I am considering switching.
Currently I have both Jellyfin and Plex on the same libraries but Jellyfin doesn’t have support for chromecast (on iOS and Firefox) nor support for offline . (Not) covering neither my at home nor travelling use cases
Can you clarify what you mean by Chromecast support? I have a Chromecast device and it has the jellyfin app on it. Works like a charm without issues. I have a feeling you mean something else though?
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Meanwhile, poor Jellyfin just quietly doing the job.
The client apps are a lot better these days too.
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What devices?
Nvidia shield
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Kodi exists however it's a client only, it is not made to host content. You are looking for jellyfin
That was what I was leaning towards. Do you (or does anyone) happen to know if it is easy to get going on Bazzite? And if so, does it play nice with a Steam controller?
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I assumed they already were.
No chance Plex wasn't making money from those who didn't pay for Plex Pass.
I know, right? Any 'free' service with that much infrastructure to support, is more than likely selling your data. I guess, it's kind of refreshing that a company comes right out and tells you they're about to bend you over the barrel.
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Did they really kill off free photo backup? That's so incredibly shitty, they even compressed them!
Yeah it was over after pixel 3 or a little before iirc! Although to me it was obvious they would eventually kill it off because that's soooo much storage. It was just a trick to get people bought into Google photos (which is a great service but much too expensive for me and now basically totally replaced by Immich)
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Can you clarify what you mean by Chromecast support? I have a Chromecast device and it has the jellyfin app on it. Works like a charm without issues. I have a feeling you mean something else though?
He's probably referring to just Chromecast without the Google TV module. Jellyfin works great for me as well on the Chromecast w/GTV
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FWIW apparently this is talking about their free content, not about user content.
And that makes a difference to you?
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Tbh, the way people push Jellyfin every single time Plex is mentioned is so extremely annoying that I'm now even less inclined to use it, especially the way the JF zelots completely ignored the legit reason that most people use it.
Not sure if you understand this or not, but you using, or not using jellyfin doesn't affect anyone but you.
️If you don't wanna use it, then don't use it. You're still wrong, but that's up to you lil buddy.
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I haven't used Plex, so I'm not exactly sure what it's doing, but I'm guessing it presents you some sort of search to find the server? Isn't that pretty much the same as a domain name, just w/ a search bar instead of a URL bar? If your domain is easy to remember, I guess I don't see an issue. I've also heard you can connect to multiple servers, so maybe that's what people are talking about.
Regardless, I think Jellyfin could handle both. Get some community-funded STUN relay servers to handle discovery and implement a way (if it doesn't already) to have your client connect to multiple servers. There should also be a way to copy all the configs from one client to another (say, a QR code or UUID, settings copied over the same STUN server).
My main issue is that this could open up servers to more potential attack vectors, and Jellyfin already has some security weaknesses. But other than that, I'd be happy to help implement this sort of thing, a STUN server can be run on as little as a $5 VPS.
I haven't used Plex in a decade and I use Jellyfin, what you're describing sounds perfect. I read up a bit on STUN servers and it's what Syncthing uses, but they also mantain discovery and relay servers (and anyone can host one and can be added to the public list). Security wise they seem to be doing fine?(I'm not an expert, just an informed user)
Idk what combo Jellyfin would benefit the most from; are relay servers needed? The workload is similar but probably higher on average, people stream more often than they do backups
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What is wrong with Jellyfin's TV app? I use it on my Android TV and I don't have any problems
Not available for my Samsung or the kid's Visio TVs
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NordVPN is better than Mullvad
Off topic, but what? Is Nord doing wacky shit with network settings?
I'm not a security expert but my guts (and the many things I read about this stuff over many years) tell me that cheap highly marketed VPNs like Nord seek the less informed users that sign up because half of their favorite youtubers sent them there, the default M.O. is install the (proprietary) app. It might be possible to use them safely but it's not what's happening to 99% of the customers.
They operate in grey legal areas, there are many scandals over the years, they write in their TOS that they can change the terms themselves without notice, if you use their service, you agree at any time.
When I wrote that they do what they want w your network, this is what I'm referring to; idk about the "settings", more like selling access to your residential line (perhaps to other VPN customers)
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And that makes a difference to you?
It does, yeah.
If they are providing the content, they can see that they are providing the content and that much is obvious.
If you are providing the content, you wouldn't expect that they can identify what you are watching.
That's the difference to me, yeah.
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Understandable. I don't worry that much myself since I haven't heard anything bad happening yet. And with ro rights to media, potential damage at least should be pretty limited.
And with ro rights to media, potential damage at least should be pretty limited.
Depends entirely on where you live I would think.
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I wonder if having a “sign in” page within jellyfin that just fronts a wireguard configuration panel, saves the creds, and automatically connects and routes app traffic over the vpn iface is a remotely viable idea.
That sounds good to me, we use wireguard in the family when out and about to access my homeserver, but I'd love if Jellyfin could create ad-hoc tunnels, it'd make us feel safe enough sharing our libraries with friends, perhaps it will convince many Plex users too. What are funkwhale users doing to share their music for example?
The other commenter wrote about STUN servers (IP), I've seen that Syncthing uses them as well, together with discovery and relay servers. Would wireguard be used at any of this stages or standalone? Personally I have no idea, I'm just an observant user
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I have a lifetime Plex pass but still I am considering switching.
Currently I have both Jellyfin and Plex on the same libraries but Jellyfin doesn’t have support for chromecast (on iOS and Firefox) nor support for offline . (Not) covering neither my at home nor travelling use casesI think you can use Infuse on iOS to chromecast. I’m not sure if that’s behind the subscription though.
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Also a lifetime Plex holder. Plex wouldn't let me watch my local content without authenticating the other day... But my internet went out and I couldn't. Decided I'd swap to Jellyfin the first chance I could (couldn't that day because no internet)... So that's what I did today. It was painless and I'm never going back to Plex.
Disclaimer, I don't need access outside of my house so I didn't set any of the remote stuff up.
Yeah, if you’re 100% local, that’s basically the ideal use case for Jellyfin. Plex really shines when it comes to remote access. But if you never use that, then there’s very little reason to use it over Jellyfin.
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I consent to Plex to: (i) sell certain personal information (hashed emails, advertising identifiers) to third-parties for advertising and marketing purposes; and (ii) store and/or access certain personal information (advertising identifiers, IP address, content being watched) on my device(s) and share that information with Plex’s advertising partners. This data is used to deliver personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Your consent applies to all devices on which you have Plex installed. You can withdraw your consent at any time in
Account Settings or using this page.Soure: https://www.plex.tv/vendors/
(Might have to clear cache)Can also read about the changes here:
https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/wrote last edited by [email protected]Oh, you expect proprietary software to behave nicely? That’s cute!
I’ll just be over here with Jellyfin, watching the chaos unfold with my popcorn!
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It does, yeah.
If they are providing the content, they can see that they are providing the content and that much is obvious.
If you are providing the content, you wouldn't expect that they can identify what you are watching.
That's the difference to me, yeah.
Mmmmm gross.
I'll leave you with this, though. Shit like this is all goalposts. For now it's just "their" content and not yours. But in 12 months it's gonna be all content. And what excuse will you make for them, then?
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Text:
I consent to Plex to: (i) sell certain personal information (hashed emails, advertising identifiers) to third-parties for advertising and marketing purposes; and (ii) store and/or access certain personal information (advertising identifiers, IP address, content being watched) on my device(s) and share that information with Plex’s advertising partners. This data is used to deliver personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Your consent applies to all devices on which you have Plex installed. You can withdraw your consent at any time in
Account Settings or using this page.Soure: https://www.plex.tv/vendors/
(Might have to clear cache)Can also read about the changes here:
https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/The downfall of Plex needs to be compiled into an 80 minute YouTube video with sponsors spaced in for NordVPN and Viagra
