Jewish Leaders Call for Boycott After Elon Musk's Nazi Salute, Holocaust Jokes

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Yeah, but other than one of the largest Jewish advocacy groups who else is defending him? What would the ADL know about antisemitism anyway?

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I know what I saw. Not all of us suffer from MAGA brain rot.

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Yes! If it resembles a sieg heil it should be condemned!

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Obvious bait

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They didn’t deny the genocide

thats BS. The ADL does deny the genocide, in that link I sent.

If the ADL supports genocide causes, its a genocide organization. If you support the ADL, you are supporting an Israeli genocide or Palestine. Same as when the german nazis were having their genocide. Your playing stupid about that is exactly the stupid I was talking about in my previous comment.

I don't care if you are jewish or not, and I never said anything abotu jewish people, I said it about the Israeli nazi ADL. You're just bringing your self righteousness to the table to whine. I'm not interested in your equivocations designed to distract and excuse Israel nazis. I dont see your personal jewishness is relevant to this topic.

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Holy shit. Defending what?

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Are you saying we shouldn't believe our lying eyes? It was a Nazi salute and the emperor has no clothes.

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Wasn't it also Martin Luther King Jr Day?

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That isn't antisemitic at all!

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You're right, anyone making that gesture is a Nazi:

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@flying squid, part of the problem:
"85% of American Jewish adults believe it is important for the U.S. to support Israel"

https://www.ajc.org/news/ajc-survey-shows-american-jews-are-deeply-and-increasingly-connected-to-israel

People generally do not think about a population with statistical terms. Humans are tribalist and much prefer binary thinking and always have. Linguists say that is not going to change and will get worse. I hear that our embrace of stats in the later 1900s was an aberation in the arc of historical rhetoric.

So the question becomes, when does a random fellow human feel its right to make generalizations?
when its 50% +1 (aka "more right than wrong")
99%?
99.999%
or only at 100%?
Given, its a sliding scale dependent on the harm being done by making the assumption. If this decision kills someone, people generally will not make an assumption unless they are in an incited mob. If it will irritate or unfairly characterize you, nobody cares, and they will feel free to assume.

surety at 100% is obviously the ideal answer, but humans will never approach that because its too much work. We dont care about the uniqueness of individuals who self identify into a group. Most people tend much more toward 50%+1 than 100% in their thinking. Being one of the 15% of outliers of a group is not a great place to be at.

Theres also the problem of crypto nazis as well. People who are secretly in favor of genocide but wont admit it outright. Humans lie, we all know this, so embracing someone on their word is not a successful strategy. We have to watch their actions instead. And we get tired of looking earnestly for outliers. Sorry, its not fair, but as far as I can tell its how humanity works, broadly speaking. Additionally, people do recognize that a lot of manipulation and marketing shenanigans has been going on around the Palestinian genocide. Yes, we are stupid, but we are just smart enough to see how ham-fisted that effort was. Thats not even going into what happened in the last election.

And theres the problem of aggregation. Sure any one member of a group stands a 15% chance of being against the genocide, but when 3 people get together, whats the odds that they are all against genocide? It drops from 15% per person to 3 tenths of one percent for a group of 3 all being members of that minority. This assumes uniform distribution of that viewpoint across a defined population.

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For fuck sake.
My point was that Independent Jewish leaders are calling for the boycott.
The State of Israel on the other hand, is holding hands up with Trump like a tag team.

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Show the the two in video and let's compare, troll.

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You do know that Jews live in countries other than Israel and the U.S., right?

But your multi-paragraph attempt at justifying calling all Jews Zionists by default is noted.

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This is an article about Jewish leaders, not about the ADL. The ADL purports to speak in the defense of all Jews and Judaism, but they do not.

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it's not a Jewish advocacy group. it's an Israel advocacy group.

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You forgot to blame it on his self-diagnosed autism.

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Wow imagine being such a pussy you can't admit what you like. Gg

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You’re right, it isn’t!

Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism. In fact, I’m pretty sure it is in direct OPPOSITION to Judaism, if you follow the fundamentals.

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Your posting pictures that YOU YOURSELF don’t even know the context of.

Post the video, pussy. Do it.

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Jewish Leaders Call for Boycott After Elon Musk's Nazi Salute, Holocaust Jokes