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John Oliver launches "Make yourself less valuable to Meta" website, suggests Signal, Mastodon, Pixelfed, and BlueSky as Meta alternatives

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  • O [email protected]

    He can't because he wasn't born here, but we could totally elect his wife and let him do the whole first husband thing while still advising if she needs it.

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    You do know his wife is a Republican right? A proud Bush/Obama era Republican? They literally met at the GOP convention in 2008.

    What is with liberals and playing fantasy games with politics? On the one hand liberals will say elections are important and have consequences and on the other they'll treat it like a game of putting in your celebrity faves without bothering to care about their actual views.

    Who knows what Jon himself actually thinks given he married a proud Republican and the fact he's a TV comedian playing a character. For all you know deep down he could personally be a never-Trump Republican himself.

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      You do know his wife is a Republican right? A proud Bush/Obama era Republican? They literally met at the GOP convention in 2008.

      What is with liberals and playing fantasy games with politics? On the one hand liberals will say elections are important and have consequences and on the other they'll treat it like a game of putting in your celebrity faves without bothering to care about their actual views.

      Who knows what Jon himself actually thinks given he married a proud Republican and the fact he's a TV comedian playing a character. For all you know deep down he could personally be a never-Trump Republican himself.

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      #106

      All I was doing was correcting a misconception and giving the actual path to what they wanted.

      Nowhere did I say it was good or bad or whether I supported it.

      Please take your words out of my mouth and keep them in yours.

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      • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

        you can’t follow people

        He said "Lemmy" but probably meant "Threadiverse", and mbin does support both the Twitter-style following user model and the Reddit-style forum model.

        To use fedia.io as an example:

        https://fedia.io/people

        I dunno about piefed, haven't used it.

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        #107

        What are the best mbins these days? I'm out of the loop.

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        • anunusualrelic@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

          There's literally billions of people on Facebook, so probably not. But maybe it's a start.

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          #108

          *Billions of accounts. Hard to tell how many are real people and how many are just slop throwing bots.

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          • D [email protected]

            Lemmy lacks a bit of polish

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            #109

            Yeah but lots of german.

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            • H [email protected]

              I’ve been wanting to try pixelfed but I haven’t figured out what to do: start my own for friends or join an existing one.

              I heard there were some issues with a dev or something so I haven’t signed up for the original instance yet

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              #110

              I've been using pixey.org for a year or so. No complaints

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                I’ve been wanting to try pixelfed but I haven’t figured out what to do: start my own for friends or join an existing one.

                I heard there were some issues with a dev or something so I haven’t signed up for the original instance yet

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                #111

                I just do gram.social. works good enough for me and my cannabis account.

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                • S [email protected]

                  with the sometimes quite insider-y references, there absolutely is at least one furry on the writing team

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                  #112

                  ::: spoiler mildly NSFW?



                  :::

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                  • W [email protected]

                    John Oliver cited a 5000% rise in search queries related to leaving Meta and deleting accounts. Among the topics mentioned in the analysis, attention was drawn to early Facebook's naivete with regard to moderation requirements, the constitutional framework, and a history of governmental interference.

                    Oliver debunks common right-wing "cry censorship" talking points, as well as the objective difficulty of moderation endeavors, and how direct threats by Trump may have influenced Zuckerberg's turnaround.

                    Oliver went on to suggest Signal, Mastodon, Bluesky, and Pixelfed as alternatives that "do not seem as desperate to fall in line with Trump". For those reluctant to completely ditch Meta, Oliver revealed a new site with step-by-step instructions to "make yourself less valuable to them".

                    The guide was a collaboration with the EFF, and includes settings' tweaks for Facebook and Meta, whose 98% of revenue comes from micro-targeting ads, the host previously cited, to increase privacy, and recommends Firefox, Privacy Badger, as "other measures" to take in order "to block advertisers and other third parties from tracking you".

                    The segment culminated in a mock advert, in which the new Meta's approach to moderation is coined as "Fuck it", and hints to racism, internet scams, and calls to genocide running rampant on Meta's platforms.

                    The clip reminds the origins of Facebook as a site to "rank college girls by hotness", and its implication in genocide in Myanmar, which was more thoroughly discussed in an Oliver's previous special on Facebook in 2018.

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                    #113

                    For the masses maybe, but Signal & Bluesky ain’t it for a Privacy forum

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                      For the masses maybe, but Signal & Bluesky ain’t it for a Privacy forum

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                      #114

                      How is Signal not privacy-friendly? It's the most private thing that can be called a "messenger app".

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                        I’ve been wanting to try pixelfed but I haven’t figured out what to do: start my own for friends or join an existing one.

                        I heard there were some issues with a dev or something so I haven’t signed up for the original instance yet

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                        #115

                        My Instagram is full of fitness content (and good looking people tbh). Nothing comes even remotely close on pixelfed. No offence to federated social media, but we all ain't good looking 🙂 (or suck at using filters...)

                        It's still a very long way off from taking over Instagram.

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                        • M [email protected]

                          You do know his wife is a Republican right? A proud Bush/Obama era Republican? They literally met at the GOP convention in 2008.

                          What is with liberals and playing fantasy games with politics? On the one hand liberals will say elections are important and have consequences and on the other they'll treat it like a game of putting in your celebrity faves without bothering to care about their actual views.

                          Who knows what Jon himself actually thinks given he married a proud Republican and the fact he's a TV comedian playing a character. For all you know deep down he could personally be a never-Trump Republican himself.

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                          She isn’t a Republican based on the last 30 seconds..

                          https://youtu.be/ESlnpceQ3zA

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                          • W [email protected]

                            it’s going to hurt Meta’s bottom line eventually

                            Just hurting Meta's bottom is good enough for me

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                            Meta has been quite naughty indeed

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                            • C [email protected]

                              How is Signal not privacy-friendly? It's the most private thing that can be called a "messenger app".

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                              I think the main red flag is that they are spending so much money. In 2023 they had 55m monthly active users and they spent $35m. The casual WhatsApp user that might switch to Signal is definitely not gonna pay for this so either Signal fans have to donate more or Signal has to start finding other monetization which if we look at other companies means selling private data.

                              (Also, half their spending is on hosting and they are not self hosting so a donation to Signal is basically a donation to Amazon and Google.)

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                                I think the main red flag is that they are spending so much money. In 2023 they had 55m monthly active users and they spent $35m. The casual WhatsApp user that might switch to Signal is definitely not gonna pay for this so either Signal fans have to donate more or Signal has to start finding other monetization which if we look at other companies means selling private data.

                                (Also, half their spending is on hosting and they are not self hosting so a donation to Signal is basically a donation to Amazon and Google.)

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                                either Signal fans have to donate more or Signal has to start finding other monetization which if we look at other companies means selling private data.

                                Lo and behold, after RiseUp now Signal is accused of selling data. Well, it is well known (and audited) that Signal keeps so little metadata it is not even useful to the authorities that have subpoeana-ed it.

                                This is an extra-ordinary claim you have to back with extra-ordinary evidence, in order to save face.

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                                  I think the main red flag is that they are spending so much money. In 2023 they had 55m monthly active users and they spent $35m. The casual WhatsApp user that might switch to Signal is definitely not gonna pay for this so either Signal fans have to donate more or Signal has to start finding other monetization which if we look at other companies means selling private data.

                                  (Also, half their spending is on hosting and they are not self hosting so a donation to Signal is basically a donation to Amazon and Google.)

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                                  Signal doesn't have private data to sell; that's the whole point.

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                                  • E [email protected]

                                    Signal doesn't have private data to sell; that's the whole point.

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                                    And my point is that since their costs are so high they will either have to become a paid app or start collecting data to sell. Or become more efficient but you’d think if they knew how they’d already done that.

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                                    • W [email protected]

                                      either Signal fans have to donate more or Signal has to start finding other monetization which if we look at other companies means selling private data.

                                      Lo and behold, after RiseUp now Signal is accused of selling data. Well, it is well known (and audited) that Signal keeps so little metadata it is not even useful to the authorities that have subpoeana-ed it.

                                      This is an extra-ordinary claim you have to back with extra-ordinary evidence, in order to save face.

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                                      #122

                                      Where did I accuse them of selling data right now? I’m simply noting the risk that they will have to cover the insane costs of their inefficient infrastructure through either becoming a paid app or collecting data to sell.

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                                      • B [email protected]

                                        I reckon Lemmy is actually pretty good. I wouldn't know if the mobile apps are good, because I don't use those - but for me the core functionality of Lemmy on my computer is smooth and functional. I don't see any obvious low-hanging-fruit.

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                                        Voyager ist amazing

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                                        • B [email protected]

                                          I reckon Lemmy is actually pretty good. I wouldn't know if the mobile apps are good, because I don't use those - but for me the core functionality of Lemmy on my computer is smooth and functional. I don't see any obvious low-hanging-fruit.

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                                          Boost is great for Android.

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