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  • E [email protected]

    It's basically gambling on the nerdiness of the question's writer. Do they think HTML is a programming language? Do they know that people think it's a programming language and trying to trap them? Do they know it's not a programming language but also know most people would think it is one and so are using the common, loose definition of a programming language in order not to trap people?

    My brain would melt

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    Mine wouldn't.

    It is a quiz, they know what they are talking about if they put the question in. And if they don't, you get to call out the quiz master for being wrong.

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    • G [email protected]

      It’s right there in the name: it’s a markup language. Hyper Text Markup Language. HTML.

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      There is a difference between “markup language” and “programming language”.

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      • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

        What about Excel? First reply I got said it has to make programs, right? I can make a Tetris clone in Excel. 🤣

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        We aren't talking about Excel, but about Word.

        We do that to explain that HTML is nothing more than to display text in a certain layout, just like a Word document. The only difference is that Word is designed to be printed, while HTML is designed to display on a website.

        Also, exclude VBA as well as macros. VBA is a programming language.

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        • lnxtx@feddit.nlL [email protected]

          Or address them:

          Either* A, B, C;
          
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          Is only A supposed to be a pointer?

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          • L [email protected]

            That's the etymological fallacy. The name itself doesn't determine the meaning. According to that logic, python isn't a programming language either but a snake

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            Ok, but hear me out. Have you seen most Python code?

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            • K [email protected]

              Ok, but hear me out. Have you seen most Python code?

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              #30

              Point taken

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              • qubaxr@lemmy.worldQ [email protected]

                A "Markup Language" to be precise. HyperText Markup Language.

                Yea my parties are the best parties, too.

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                That's the word, it did feel wrong with formatting!
                We should party together sometimes! 😄

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                • L [email protected]

                  Point taken

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                  From Gryffindor and awarded to Slytherin

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                    How is it a programming language? It's a markup language. There's no logic, variables or any way to manipulate data.

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                    It's right there in the name, but then there's CFML, which is unpopular, but it definitely features logic, variables, and data manipulation.

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                    • L [email protected]

                      That's the etymological fallacy. The name itself doesn't determine the meaning. According to that logic, python isn't a programming language either but a snake

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                      #34

                      The name itself doesn't determine the meaning.

                      The name in this case is defined by the meaning if you will. Programming languages are used to write programs. A HTML file is much closer to a PDF than to what can be considered a program.

                      Also fun fact python is named after the comedy group Monty Python rather than the snake.

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                      • S [email protected]

                        How is Hyper Text Markup Language not a programming language? Now JavaScript and CSS are arcane rituals, but html is well behaved.

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                        Can you write a program in HTML?

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                        • L [email protected]

                          That's the etymological fallacy. The name itself doesn't determine the meaning. According to that logic, python isn't a programming language either but a snake

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                          Fun fact python was named after Monty python, not the snake.

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                          • venus_ziegenfalle@feddit.orgV [email protected]

                            The name itself doesn't determine the meaning.

                            The name in this case is defined by the meaning if you will. Programming languages are used to write programs. A HTML file is much closer to a PDF than to what can be considered a program.

                            Also fun fact python is named after the comedy group Monty Python rather than the snake.

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                            Actually, PDF is a turing complete programming language.

                            PDF is a simplification and wrapper around the computer language PostScript - a PostScript or PDF doc literally runs on the printer or computer and outputs the rasterisation of the thing you want to print.

                            PostScript is language based around a stack. You can define functions (which may be fully recursive) that run on the stack.

                            Here's a small example:

                            /ANGLE {
                               newpath
                               100 0 moveto
                               0 0 lineto
                               100 50 lineto
                               stroke
                            } def
                            
                            10 setlinewidth
                            0 setlinejoin
                            100 200 translate
                            ANGLE
                            
                            1 setlinejoin
                            0 70 translate
                            ANGLE
                            
                            2 setlinejoin
                            0 70 translate
                            ANGLE
                            

                            As such, PDF that's actually similar to Python, and HTML is closer to something like a JSON or XML document.

                            Note however that HTML can contain Javscript or WASM programs, but these are embedded rather than features of HTML.

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                            • S [email protected]

                              How is Hyper Text Markup Language not a programming language? Now JavaScript and CSS are arcane rituals, but html is well behaved.

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                              It is in the name. It is a markup language, not a programming/scripting language.

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                              • M [email protected]

                                Actually, PDF is a turing complete programming language.

                                PDF is a simplification and wrapper around the computer language PostScript - a PostScript or PDF doc literally runs on the printer or computer and outputs the rasterisation of the thing you want to print.

                                PostScript is language based around a stack. You can define functions (which may be fully recursive) that run on the stack.

                                Here's a small example:

                                /ANGLE {
                                   newpath
                                   100 0 moveto
                                   0 0 lineto
                                   100 50 lineto
                                   stroke
                                } def
                                
                                10 setlinewidth
                                0 setlinejoin
                                100 200 translate
                                ANGLE
                                
                                1 setlinejoin
                                0 70 translate
                                ANGLE
                                
                                2 setlinejoin
                                0 70 translate
                                ANGLE
                                

                                As such, PDF that's actually similar to Python, and HTML is closer to something like a JSON or XML document.

                                Note however that HTML can contain Javscript or WASM programs, but these are embedded rather than features of HTML.

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                                Consider me outjerked 🎩🤏

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                                • L [email protected]

                                  There is a running joke that some people falsely consider HTML a programming language which it is not. So it's D. I didn't watch the show but I assume that's it and the joke is that the audience's majority took alien language

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                                  Interestingly C and D are both programming languages. That is, there is a programming languages called C and another, D.

                                  I'll see myself out...

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                                  • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                                    What about Excel? First reply I got said it has to make programs, right? I can make a Tetris clone in Excel. 🤣

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                                    Well, you can't make Tetris in HTML without including some other language that has loops and variables.

                                    I'm also not sure if you can do it in Excel without using VBA, which is a programming language. Excel doesn't do circular logic in the document sheets.

                                    Anyway the issue or joke is the lack of definition of "programming".

                                    HTML is a text encoding system. It's not that different form something like the Morse code. It's only instructions for how to decipher a series of codes. It takes input and presents it as an output, starting from the beginning and working its way to the end.

                                    In my very unofficial opinion, a "program" is something that is able to "run" by itself, so that the code itself has instructions for which part of the code to run.

                                    If you decipher a morse code, it doesn't suddenly have instructions that force you to go backwards in the code and decipher from there or to jump to different sections. The text output might tell you to do so, but if you follow the text, then you're doing something else than deciphering morse code.

                                    HTML works the same. It start from the top and interprets its way down. It can have some conditional statements, but nothing that will make it go backwards and rerun the same instructions again.

                                    The interpretation is of course more advanced than Morse code and it can call other languages to do stuff, so HTML is basically a document describing a job procedure in that way. The individual jobs can be reoccurring tasks, but the document itself isn't.

                                    So in my opinion it's not "running" anything. It's just a document being printed on screen.

                                    I'll admit that "one-shot" programs are a thing, and documents with variables do exist, so it's not clear cut. A programming language should be capable of those things though, and HTML isn't one on its own.

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                                    • G [email protected]

                                      It’s right there in the name: it’s a markup language. Hyper Text Markup Language. HTML.

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                                      How To Meet Ladies.

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                                      • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                                        What about Excel? First reply I got said it has to make programs, right? I can make a Tetris clone in Excel. 🤣

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                                        Simon Peyton Jones is about as big an expert on programming languages as you can get, and he's on the record as saying Excel is a functional programming language.

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                                        • gutek8134@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                                          Is only A supposed to be a pointer?

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                                          Asking the real questions.

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