None of these
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How is Hyper Text Markup Language not a programming language? Now JavaScript and CSS are arcane rituals, but html is well behaved.
Can you write a program in HTML?
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That's the etymological fallacy. The name itself doesn't determine the meaning. According to that logic, python isn't a programming language either but a snake
Fun fact python was named after Monty python, not the snake.
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The name itself doesn't determine the meaning.
The name in this case is defined by the meaning if you will. Programming languages are used to write programs. A HTML file is much closer to a PDF than to what can be considered a program.
Also fun fact python is named after the comedy group Monty Python rather than the snake.
Actually, PDF is a turing complete programming language.
PDF is a simplification and wrapper around the computer language PostScript - a PostScript or PDF doc literally runs on the printer or computer and outputs the rasterisation of the thing you want to print.
PostScript is language based around a stack. You can define functions (which may be fully recursive) that run on the stack.
Here's a small example:
/ANGLE { newpath 100 0 moveto 0 0 lineto 100 50 lineto stroke } def 10 setlinewidth 0 setlinejoin 100 200 translate ANGLE 1 setlinejoin 0 70 translate ANGLE 2 setlinejoin 0 70 translate ANGLEAs such, PDF that's actually similar to Python, and HTML is closer to something like a JSON or XML document.
Note however that HTML can contain Javscript or WASM programs, but these are embedded rather than features of HTML.
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How is Hyper Text Markup Language not a programming language? Now JavaScript and CSS are arcane rituals, but html is well behaved.
It is in the name. It is a markup language, not a programming/scripting language.
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Actually, PDF is a turing complete programming language.
PDF is a simplification and wrapper around the computer language PostScript - a PostScript or PDF doc literally runs on the printer or computer and outputs the rasterisation of the thing you want to print.
PostScript is language based around a stack. You can define functions (which may be fully recursive) that run on the stack.
Here's a small example:
/ANGLE { newpath 100 0 moveto 0 0 lineto 100 50 lineto stroke } def 10 setlinewidth 0 setlinejoin 100 200 translate ANGLE 1 setlinejoin 0 70 translate ANGLE 2 setlinejoin 0 70 translate ANGLEAs such, PDF that's actually similar to Python, and HTML is closer to something like a JSON or XML document.
Note however that HTML can contain Javscript or WASM programs, but these are embedded rather than features of HTML.
Consider me outjerked
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There is a running joke that some people falsely consider HTML a programming language which it is not. So it's D. I didn't watch the show but I assume that's it and the joke is that the audience's majority took alien language
Interestingly C and D are both programming languages. That is, there is a programming languages called C and another, D.
I'll see myself out...
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What about Excel? First reply I got said it has to make programs, right? I can make a Tetris clone in Excel.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Well, you can't make Tetris in HTML without including some other language that has loops and variables.
I'm also not sure if you can do it in Excel without using VBA, which is a programming language. Excel doesn't do circular logic in the document sheets.
Anyway the issue or joke is the lack of definition of "programming".
HTML is a text encoding system. It's not that different form something like the Morse code. It's only instructions for how to decipher a series of codes. It takes input and presents it as an output, starting from the beginning and working its way to the end.
In my very unofficial opinion, a "program" is something that is able to "run" by itself, so that the code itself has instructions for which part of the code to run.
If you decipher a morse code, it doesn't suddenly have instructions that force you to go backwards in the code and decipher from there or to jump to different sections. The text output might tell you to do so, but if you follow the text, then you're doing something else than deciphering morse code.
HTML works the same. It start from the top and interprets its way down. It can have some conditional statements, but nothing that will make it go backwards and rerun the same instructions again.
The interpretation is of course more advanced than Morse code and it can call other languages to do stuff, so HTML is basically a document describing a job procedure in that way. The individual jobs can be reoccurring tasks, but the document itself isn't.
So in my opinion it's not "running" anything. It's just a document being printed on screen.
I'll admit that "one-shot" programs are a thing, and documents with variables do exist, so it's not clear cut. A programming language should be capable of those things though, and HTML isn't one on its own.
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It’s right there in the name: it’s a markup language. Hyper Text Markup Language. HTML.
How To Meet Ladies.
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What about Excel? First reply I got said it has to make programs, right? I can make a Tetris clone in Excel.
Simon Peyton Jones is about as big an expert on programming languages as you can get, and he's on the record as saying Excel is a functional programming language.
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Is only A supposed to be a pointer?
Asking the real questions.
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Mine wouldn't.
It is a quiz, they know what they are talking about if they put the question in. And if they don't, you get to call out the quiz master for being wrong.
But I’d rather have the million dollars than the satisfaction of calling out the show for being wrong.
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Fun fact python was named after Monty python, not the snake.
What was Monty Python named after?
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What was Monty Python named after?
I think it got inspired by our lord and savior Brian
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Interestingly C and D are both programming languages. That is, there is a programming languages called C and another, D.
I'll see myself out...
Trying to remember from automata theory, does the empty set accept an empty grammar?
Like how in some languages an empty source file is valid? So then “none” is a programming language with an empty language grammar?
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Is Machine Language even a well defined thing? I would think of assembly but I don't know where to draw the line
Hyper Text Machine Language
This will be the next big thing. I’m going to write a Lemmy server in this.
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I would loudly go on the record for my reasoning that Hypertext Markup Language is not Turing Complete, and therefore fails to be a programming language by the only academic and theoretical definition that matters.
They already are going to award me "lawyer up" money, so I'll come after them for damages later if B is the "right' answer.
wrong again! CSS is turing complete, and HTML can include inline CSS, so you can implement a Turing machine in HTML only (without external .js files)
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It's right there in the name, but then there's CFML, which is unpopular, but it definitely features logic, variables, and data manipulation.
CFML walks the line, but it exists to make HTML in a programmatic way, and be very approachable to non-programmers. It’s not really a markup language, it’s a programming language disguised as markup.
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But I’d rather have the million dollars than the satisfaction of calling out the show for being wrong.
Weak sauce. A man has to have principles!
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wrong again! CSS is turing complete, and HTML can include inline CSS, so you can implement a Turing machine in HTML only (without external .js files)
It can also include inline JS. HTML alone cannot be turing complete, but HTML+CSS is.
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Ackshually it's a markup language not a programming language Picks D and loses $1 million
