Netanyahu Gifts Trump Golden Pager to Commemorate Attack That Killed Children: 'That Was a Great Operation'

[rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

If it was only America that was fucked it wouldn't be such a big deal, America deserves it.

Unfortunately the election consequences also mean America is locking in accelerating climate change, which is going to hurt the poorest countries the most.

America and the other richest countries have the best means to mitigate the damage. American homes come with heating and AC standard.

In the most marginalized communities in the world climate change is going to turn into climate genocide.

[rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

You're living with the delusion of clean hands and a clean conscious and you only had to sacrifice countless numbers of people to do it.

[thesven@lemm.ee]

And that literally doesn't solve anything. It just postpones the inevitable. Democracy lost the moment DNC plotted against Bernie Sanders back in 2016. What would you think would happen if we had another 4 years of Democrats? Fascism would just come 4 years later.

[thesven@lemm.ee]

If I had voted for Kamala I would't even have that delusion.

[t00l_shed@lemmy.world]

It would give 4 years to work towards electing more progressive people at a municipal and state level. It literally give a chance to solve something instead of being accelerationist.

[thesven@lemm.ee]

Yep, we saw how much the Biden presidency helped.

[theonetheycall1845@lemmy.world]

He wasn't voted in. Elon manipulated the voting system for trumps gain. Trump even said it himself "Elon knows voting machines". They have taken over our country and are dismantling it piece by piece. The question is, how do we stop these fucks?

[t00l_shed@lemmy.world]

It genuinely did, for many Americans, trans rights, federal funding for science. Should it have been better? Yes. Because it wasn't perfect does that mean fascism should be allowed in? No.

[conartistpanda@lemmy.world]

You were complicit in getting Trump elected the moment you didnt vote for his opponent.

[tinned_tomatoes@feddit.uk]

So you acknowledge your part in getting Trump elected, good to know.

In a few years maybe you'll drop this delusion that you didn't elect Trump by not voting for Harris.

[tinned_tomatoes@feddit.uk]

Unfortunately most people here are in their early twenties and have yet to learn about the flaws of FPTP. Sadly this was probably their most important election and they fucked it up.

[t00l_shed@lemmy.world]

Tell me about it. I'm canadian and we have FPTP, it is not a way to democratically elect anyone. It ends up being a vote against, rather than a vote for. We've been trading blue and red since forever here, with one tiny little exception. It's not representative at all.

[tinned_tomatoes@feddit.uk]

UK here, same shitty system, though it's supposedly good at ensuring mostly-stable governments. We had a hung parliament in 2010 and it was actually pretty decent (in the sense that the Lib Dems were able to hold back the Tories' more aggressive policies), but having true proportional representation would significantly change the UK political spectrum.

Ironically I was thankful for FPTP in our 2024 election because it capped the power that far-right parties like Reform UK could take. We now have a super strong Labour majority and 4.5 more years of them pushing through progressive policies without much opposition. Proportional representation would slow down progress in this way, because the parliament would have to constantly find mitigations and compromises. That's actually a really good quality of a government, but the UK is in a poor state right now and needs investment desperately and quickly!

[thesven@lemm.ee]

All these are just a smokescreen. Inequality is the real issue, and the rich got richer, while the poor got poorer.

I am not saying that fascism should be allowed in. I am just saying that people who feel left out, and who feel that society has betrayed them, they will start searching for other alternatives to our current system. Who left them out?

[thesven@lemm.ee]

Did he have only one opponent? Last time I checked there were more than two candidates.

[thesven@lemm.ee]

My part in getting Trump elected is minuscule to the part the Democratic Party played to get him electable.

[papertowels@lemmy.one]

This is prime "enlightened third party voter" meme material right here.

Must be nice in that ivory tower.

[t00l_shed@lemmy.world]

The GOP historically. If you want equality you don't vote for the party that is shouting out "you are lesser than me, you are my slaves"

[thesven@lemm.ee]

And this is prime "You didn't vote for my shit candidate, therefore you are literally Hitler".

It is certainly nice to not have blood on my hands.

[thesven@lemm.ee]

I totally agree that the GOP is shit. Thing is that the DNC was preaching one thing and doing another, while simultaneously raising issues that were completely irrelevant to 95%+ of its base. "You can't feed your family? OK, but that trans kid who you probably never interact with at any point in your life has now rights, and I will base my whole identity around that!" Do you know how many people are transexual in the United States? Less than 1%.

You are right, if you want equality you don't vote for the GOP, but you sure as hell don't vote for the DNC either.