Netanyahu Gifts Trump Golden Pager to Commemorate Attack That Killed Children: 'That Was a Great Operation'

[t00l_shed@lemmy.world]

It genuinely did, for many Americans, trans rights, federal funding for science. Should it have been better? Yes. Because it wasn't perfect does that mean fascism should be allowed in? No.

[conartistpanda@lemmy.world]

You were complicit in getting Trump elected the moment you didnt vote for his opponent.

[tinned_tomatoes@feddit.uk]

So you acknowledge your part in getting Trump elected, good to know.

In a few years maybe you'll drop this delusion that you didn't elect Trump by not voting for Harris.

[tinned_tomatoes@feddit.uk]

Unfortunately most people here are in their early twenties and have yet to learn about the flaws of FPTP. Sadly this was probably their most important election and they fucked it up.

[t00l_shed@lemmy.world]

Tell me about it. I'm canadian and we have FPTP, it is not a way to democratically elect anyone. It ends up being a vote against, rather than a vote for. We've been trading blue and red since forever here, with one tiny little exception. It's not representative at all.

[tinned_tomatoes@feddit.uk]

UK here, same shitty system, though it's supposedly good at ensuring mostly-stable governments. We had a hung parliament in 2010 and it was actually pretty decent (in the sense that the Lib Dems were able to hold back the Tories' more aggressive policies), but having true proportional representation would significantly change the UK political spectrum.

Ironically I was thankful for FPTP in our 2024 election because it capped the power that far-right parties like Reform UK could take. We now have a super strong Labour majority and 4.5 more years of them pushing through progressive policies without much opposition. Proportional representation would slow down progress in this way, because the parliament would have to constantly find mitigations and compromises. That's actually a really good quality of a government, but the UK is in a poor state right now and needs investment desperately and quickly!

[thesven@lemm.ee]

All these are just a smokescreen. Inequality is the real issue, and the rich got richer, while the poor got poorer.

I am not saying that fascism should be allowed in. I am just saying that people who feel left out, and who feel that society has betrayed them, they will start searching for other alternatives to our current system. Who left them out?

[thesven@lemm.ee]

Did he have only one opponent? Last time I checked there were more than two candidates.

[thesven@lemm.ee]

My part in getting Trump elected is minuscule to the part the Democratic Party played to get him electable.

[papertowels@lemmy.one]

This is prime "enlightened third party voter" meme material right here.

Must be nice in that ivory tower.

[t00l_shed@lemmy.world]

The GOP historically. If you want equality you don't vote for the party that is shouting out "you are lesser than me, you are my slaves"

[thesven@lemm.ee]

And this is prime "You didn't vote for my shit candidate, therefore you are literally Hitler".

It is certainly nice to not have blood on my hands.

[thesven@lemm.ee]

I totally agree that the GOP is shit. Thing is that the DNC was preaching one thing and doing another, while simultaneously raising issues that were completely irrelevant to 95%+ of its base. "You can't feed your family? OK, but that trans kid who you probably never interact with at any point in your life has now rights, and I will base my whole identity around that!" Do you know how many people are transexual in the United States? Less than 1%.

You are right, if you want equality you don't vote for the GOP, but you sure as hell don't vote for the DNC either.

[johnmannesca@lemmy.world]

"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" Rush-Freewill

[t00l_shed@lemmy.world]

I'm sorry but if you can't be happy that a fellow human has human rights then there is nothing more to say. It doesn't matter that there are a small percentage of them. Because the fact of the matter is, trans rights are a sign for the rest of the country in question, human rights matter, take away trans rights, now the rest of the queer community, then POC then women are open to it. So it doesn't just affect the trans community. If you mean making human rights my identity then you're damn right I'm proud to make human rights my identity.

[thesven@lemm.ee]

I know my quotes too.

“There is nothing I dread So much, as a Division of the Republick[sic] into two great Parties, each arranged under its Leader, and concerting Measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble Apprehension is to be dreaded as the greatest political Evil, under our Constitution.”
John Adams

"The two-party system teaches you that there’s a constant battle of good versus evil, when in reality, it’s just a fight for power.”
Ross Perot

“The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum.”
Noam Chomsky

Want me to go on?

[thesven@lemm.ee]

Of course I am happy that they have rights! I am just saying that it should be irrelevant. It shouldn't be the platform that the candidates run on. They should just give LGBTQI+ rights, and run on a more socialist platform that will raise the poor and lower the rich. But of course DNC is run by the establishment, and they have certain agendas, so that would never happen. So what's a point of contention that the two parties can easily have? LGBT rights!

[t00l_shed@lemmy.world]

It should be the case yes, but it isn't

[thesven@lemm.ee]

Yep. And that's why we are sliding into fascism.

[t00l_shed@lemmy.world]

Imo, you're right for the wrong reason