Two British MPs detained by Israel, British foreign minister says
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Follow to the end of the thread, you walked out thinking someone just understood what you meant and probably with a sense of closed matter rather than boiling because some neo nazi government just arrested two UK MPs.
boiling because some neo nazi government just arrested two UK MPs.
Oh I wasn't boiling either way; I'm happy. To quote myself: Good job Israel, looking forward to more self-owns in the future.
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April 5 (Reuters) - Israel has detained two British members of parliament and refused entry to the officials who were visiting as part of a parliamentary delegation, British Foreign Minister David Lammy said in a statement late on Saturday.
Sky News, citing a statement from the Israeli immigration ministry, says that the detained parliamentarians are Labour MPs Yuan Yang and Abtisam Mohamed, who were rejected because they were suspected of plans to “document the activities of security forces and spread anti-Israel hatred.”
“I have made clear to my counterparts in the Israeli government that this is no way to treat British Parliamentarians, and we have been in contact with both MPs tonight to offer our support,” Lammy said.
There is a reason why Israel is not allowing any international media to enter Gaza or the West Bank. They simply want to control the narrative there.
They are also against any independent international investigations and so far none of their investigations have led to effective sentences.
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April 5 (Reuters) - Israel has detained two British members of parliament and refused entry to the officials who were visiting as part of a parliamentary delegation, British Foreign Minister David Lammy said in a statement late on Saturday.
Sky News, citing a statement from the Israeli immigration ministry, says that the detained parliamentarians are Labour MPs Yuan Yang and Abtisam Mohamed, who were rejected because they were suspected of plans to “document the activities of security forces and spread anti-Israel hatred.”
“I have made clear to my counterparts in the Israeli government that this is no way to treat British Parliamentarians, and we have been in contact with both MPs tonight to offer our support,” Lammy said.
British imperialism created the zio terror regime. A century later the blowback is reaching their politicians.
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I don't understand the point you are trying to make. They are government officials. Members of parliament. Your distinction between front and back benchers is accurate but off topic.
MPs are either government officials or backbenchers. These were the latter. It was the difference between the Foreign Secretary sending a stern message and the RAF fuelling the jets.
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So a "parliamentarian delegation" isn't official government business?
The UK Foreign Office said the group was part of a parliamentary delegation - however Israel's immigration authority contested this claim, saying the delegation had not been acknowledged by any Israeli official.
The MPs said the trip had been organised with UK charities that had "over a decade of experience in taking parliamentary delegations".
We don't need Israel's acknowledgement or approval to label the WGs of the UK government. If their should have been coordination with their government on the constraints of their visit, that's another matter. It doesn't make the delegation any less a part of government business by their own definition.
In the Westminster System, Parliament and Government are not the same thing.
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You fell for another redirect, this is a known tactic from the IDF on socials. They derail arguments by focusing on minutia and semantics to keep people from noticing that the neo nazis just arrested two members of government of one of their biggest allies because they considered they were going to document the ongoing genocide.
Jackbooted stormtrooper of a neo-fascist apartheid ethnostate, or person fed up with yanks mislabelling British politicians because they think everyone runs things like they do. Who can tell? It’s a fine line.
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In the Westminster System, Parliament and Government are not the same thing.
Irrelevant as we are talking about a delegation of MPs front the ruling party
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In the Westminster System, Parliament and Government are not the same thing.
The UK government has already released a statement saying that they expect Israel to host delegations like this. Ergo, they have indicated that it is their business. Actions are more indicative of the situation than wordplay.
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MPs are either government officials or backbenchers. These were the latter. It was the difference between the Foreign Secretary sending a stern message and the RAF fuelling the jets.
That's where I'm confused. Maybe it's a language/cultural difference, but I consider all elected members of parliament government officials regardless of the importance of their role compared to cabinet ministers.
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The UK government has already released a statement saying that they expect Israel to host delegations like this. Ergo, they have indicated that it is their business. Actions are more indicative of the situation than wordplay.
It’s the government’s responsibility to ensure the safety of MPs, but it seems they were there on parliamentary or personal business bit government business.
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That's where I'm confused. Maybe it's a language/cultural difference, but I consider all elected members of parliament government officials regardless of the importance of their role compared to cabinet ministers.
Under the Westminster system, Parliament is a separate entity to the Government, even though members of the government are nearly always members of the parliament. It goes back to the English Civil War and what’s run by Kings and what’s run by the electorate.
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boiling because some neo nazi government just arrested two UK MPs.
Oh I wasn't boiling either way; I'm happy. To quote myself: Good job Israel, looking forward to more self-owns in the future.
Starmer won’t do much if anything about it. They’ve already sent the sternly-worded email. If anything he’s relieved that there’s a distraction from one of his MPs being arrested for child rape yesterday.
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April 5 (Reuters) - Israel has detained two British members of parliament and refused entry to the officials who were visiting as part of a parliamentary delegation, British Foreign Minister David Lammy said in a statement late on Saturday.
Sky News, citing a statement from the Israeli immigration ministry, says that the detained parliamentarians are Labour MPs Yuan Yang and Abtisam Mohamed, who were rejected because they were suspected of plans to “document the activities of security forces and spread anti-Israel hatred.”
“I have made clear to my counterparts in the Israeli government that this is no way to treat British Parliamentarians, and we have been in contact with both MPs tonight to offer our support,” Lammy said.
Thats fine, the civilized world should not let Israelis travel freely then if thats their attitude.
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It’s the government’s responsibility to ensure the safety of MPs, but it seems they were there on parliamentary or personal business bit government business.
Again, wordplay belies intent. If they have to get involved in the negative treatment of a delegation like this, when a situation such as this arises, it is demonstrably their business.
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Starmer won’t do much if anything about it. They’ve already sent the sternly-worded email. If anything he’s relieved that there’s a distraction from one of his MPs being arrested for child rape yesterday.
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From the Canadian prospective: Starmer is one of the worst PM's I've ever seen in my life. They are labour in name only. So many excuses for genocide, so much ass kissing to Trump. That guy fuckin sucks man.
Cameron? May, Johnson? Fucking Truss?
He is disappointing on the Middle East, but it’s literally his job to get the best deal for the UK regarding US trade. If that means tickling a fragile ego, sure why not, an easy win.
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April 5 (Reuters) - Israel has detained two British members of parliament and refused entry to the officials who were visiting as part of a parliamentary delegation, British Foreign Minister David Lammy said in a statement late on Saturday.
Sky News, citing a statement from the Israeli immigration ministry, says that the detained parliamentarians are Labour MPs Yuan Yang and Abtisam Mohamed, who were rejected because they were suspected of plans to “document the activities of security forces and spread anti-Israel hatred.”
“I have made clear to my counterparts in the Israeli government that this is no way to treat British Parliamentarians, and we have been in contact with both MPs tonight to offer our support,” Lammy said.
It's time to recall all citizens in the terrorist regime and send messengers from the Secure Air Shipping for those missing.
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Cameron? May, Johnson? Fucking Truss?
He is disappointing on the Middle East, but it’s literally his job to get the best deal for the UK regarding US trade. If that means tickling a fragile ego, sure why not, an easy win.
Tony Blair is certainly the worst, I forgot him.
It's funny in Europe you still have people thinking he will respect agreements with you when they don't respect you at all. If they destroyed NAFTA on a whim they'll rip up whatever agreement they make with Europe as they gear up their rhetoric against greenland.
Great to know we got another Chamberlain across the pond though.
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Tony Blair is certainly the worst, I forgot him.
It's funny in Europe you still have people thinking he will respect agreements with you when they don't respect you at all. If they destroyed NAFTA on a whim they'll rip up whatever agreement they make with Europe as they gear up their rhetoric against greenland.
Great to know we got another Chamberlain across the pond though.
Chamberlain who stalled until rearmament could take place rather than going off half-cocked?
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MPs are either government officials or backbenchers. These were the latter. It was the difference between the Foreign Secretary sending a stern message and the RAF fuelling the jets.
You seem to be confused. The phrase 'government official' refers to anyone acting on behalf of the government, including backbenchers. This could even include unelected aides, spokespeople or some civil servants.
You're thinking of the cabinet. You do not have to be in the cabinet to be a 'government official'.
As a fellow brit, these Americans correcting you are right.
