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New Bill to Effectively Kill Anime & Other Piracy in the U.S. Gets Backing by Netflix, Disney & Sony

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  • V [email protected]

    Just you wait till you see the arr stack (radarr, sonarr, lidarr, etc.)

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    I really only hoard music media on Plex as I have friends who collect movies and I use streaming sites like Ororo.tv on Kodi.

    I tried Lidarr but I find that it is inconsistent enough that it is just a find-and-grab utility for me.

    I much prefer ripping tidal tracks on my phone using a tidal-dl in termix and then just using a ftp to my Pi when I get home

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      I would still pirate. I like to have the files instead of proprietary apps

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      What if they gave you the files, with an easy download button ( with rate limits on downloads per user to avoid mass abuse )? Then, Netflix is basically providing a debrid service, which many people who pirate already pay more than 5$ for. Your VPN for torrenting is likely more than 5$. It's already trivially easy to rip a movie off a website ( even with DRM ), so this is not a real content control loss for them.

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        Good luck.

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        fre:ac is an open source alternative to EAC and is actually way better, in my opinion.

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          fre:ac is an open source alternative to EAC and is actually way better, in my opinion.

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          Whipper is pretty much a text-based clone of EAC.

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            What if they gave you the files, with an easy download button ( with rate limits on downloads per user to avoid mass abuse )? Then, Netflix is basically providing a debrid service, which many people who pirate already pay more than 5$ for. Your VPN for torrenting is likely more than 5$. It's already trivially easy to rip a movie off a website ( even with DRM ), so this is not a real content control loss for them.

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            If they offered a service like GOG for movies I think it would be worth it. I don't have much time for movies though so I actually will buy several films a year on UHD Blu-ray. I only really pirate films that are either out of print or not available in my country on disc.

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              Whipper is pretty much a text-based clone of EAC.

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              That sounds cool as hell. I might try it out but I don't see myself switching software. I love cli tools.

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                Aren't most torrent sites not based in the US to begin with?

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                • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

                  I started using pirated software in 1990, back when my first PC was gifted to me. All software I had was copied because I could not afford jack shit on my own. It is thanks to pirated (and open source) software that I have the career I have, and can afford to spend thousands of dollars on legitimate software, music, movies, books, etc.

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                  I got my first computer, an Apple II, back in the 1980s as a hand-me-down from my (much older) brother when he left for college and I was just 6.

                  All but one disk was pirated.

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                  • ratzchatsubo@lemm.eeR [email protected]

                    I really only hoard music media on Plex as I have friends who collect movies and I use streaming sites like Ororo.tv on Kodi.

                    I tried Lidarr but I find that it is inconsistent enough that it is just a find-and-grab utility for me.

                    I much prefer ripping tidal tracks on my phone using a tidal-dl in termix and then just using a ftp to my Pi when I get home

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                    FWIW, Lidarr works the worst out of the arr stack for me too. I don't know if there's just not enough well indexed material in my sources or what, but yeah, not great.

                    If your entire experience with the arr stack has been Lidarr so far, give it another shot! Sonarr and Radarr work absolutely perfectly. It's just such a nice feeling to open Jellyfin (or I guess Plex) on the TV and go "oh nice new episode is out!"

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                    • ratzchatsubo@lemm.eeR [email protected]

                      We only pirate because it's easier and cheaper. If you actually had a catch all service (like old Netflix) for a low price, people would stop. Oh wait, we had that but greed got in the way again.

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                      As has often been reiterated: piracy is a service problem. If what you get by paying more is an inferior service, then people don’t want to pay for that service.

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                      • ratzchatsubo@lemm.eeR [email protected]

                        We only pirate because it's easier and cheaper. If you actually had a catch all service (like old Netflix) for a low price, people would stop. Oh wait, we had that but greed got in the way again.

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                        I miss my $8 a month google music + YouTube red… I wonder if people got to keep the legacy price for YouTube premium

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                          As has often been reiterated: piracy is a service problem. If what you get by paying more is an inferior service, then people don’t want to pay for that service.

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                          100% true, haven't pirated a single game since I started using Steam and actually having a paycheck since about 10 years ago

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                            I am quite fond of Nyaa :3

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                              There's a part of me that has become annoyed that i'm forced to pay for a vpn to now access the entirety of the internet. I don't blame the vpn provider, though. Nope, they are not the ones I blame...

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                                They already banned pornhub and pornographers. Fascists are geing to fash.

                                MPA logo corrected

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                                • flyingsquid@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                  Aren't most torrent sites not based in the US to begin with?

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                                  Has never stopped the world bully from bullying others.

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                                    Has never stopped the world bully from bullying others.

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                                    True, but I think the world bully is about to find out that it isn't the world bully anymore now that it's bullying itself.

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                                      We only pirate because it's easier and cheaper. If you actually had a catch all service (like old Netflix) for a low price, people would stop. Oh wait, we had that but greed got in the way again.

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                                      Why just pay one service a small fee for ad free streaming, when you can pay a lot of services a large fee for ad supported streaming?

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                                        It is impossible to ban piracy. The whole concept is that it's not legal to begin with.

                                        I bet Lars Ulrich is so proud that he killed music piracy back when he killed napster.

                                        Except wait.....no he didn't he killed A service. Meaning singular. The concept of piracy moved on. We got limewire and torrents.

                                        The ONLY thing that has slowed (if not stopped) music piracy is making the content readily and easily available in a convienent consumption method at a reasonable price.

                                        Shocking, I know.

                                        The invention of iTunes CHARGING money for music in a (at the time) new more convienent method of music consumption at a reasonable price did leaps and bounds more to destroy piracy than Napsters downfall ever could.

                                        Now if only video services would learn this lession. Because it's the same lession. I don't know how they missed the memo on this.

                                        Put your video in one centralized place. Make it hassle free to watch. Charge a reasonable price. Piracy dies overnight.

                                        And just to prove it, show of hands. Who here would go through the effort and risk of pirating, if Netflix had everything you wanted to watch, for $5 a month? Who here would say no, and still pirate? Reply below and tell me if you would still pirate with those conditions?

                                        But instead, netflix is pushing $20 a month, and the video hosting is fractured among multiple hosts, all of which overcharge, AND want to serve ads.

                                        Oh hey, right on cue. It's a skull and bones flag approaching.

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                                        Video services involve bigger files, subtitles availability, streaming load less evenly spread over hours.

                                        But I personally think there are ways involving chunk encryption (one key for many users for the same chunk, but not the same key for everyone ; obviously in the end it's decrypted and decoded at user's machine, so opportunity for piracy is not avoidable) and something like bittorrent to make commercial video streaming both convenient for users and not such a technical challenge for distributors.

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                                          This is dumb considering that these types of streaming sites are how I actually discover anime and become a fan enough that i want to purchase merch. I pay for Crunchy Roll, but sometimes I want to check out stuff from other services. If I had to rely sheerly on legal services I wouldn't watch or discover half of what I did.

                                          Legal services are also pretty inferior. I wanted to watch A certain Scientific Railgun.. Season 1 was dubbed, but season 2 on the service wasn't... I literally had to track it down on some streaming site to get access to what I'm paying for.

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