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New Bill to Effectively Kill Anime & Other Piracy in the U.S. Gets Backing by Netflix, Disney & Sony

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  • L [email protected]

    It is impossible to ban piracy. The whole concept is that it's not legal to begin with.

    I bet Lars Ulrich is so proud that he killed music piracy back when he killed napster.

    Except wait.....no he didn't he killed A service. Meaning singular. The concept of piracy moved on. We got limewire and torrents.

    The ONLY thing that has slowed (if not stopped) music piracy is making the content readily and easily available in a convienent consumption method at a reasonable price.

    Shocking, I know.

    The invention of iTunes CHARGING money for music in a (at the time) new more convienent method of music consumption at a reasonable price did leaps and bounds more to destroy piracy than Napsters downfall ever could.

    Now if only video services would learn this lession. Because it's the same lession. I don't know how they missed the memo on this.

    Put your video in one centralized place. Make it hassle free to watch. Charge a reasonable price. Piracy dies overnight.

    And just to prove it, show of hands. Who here would go through the effort and risk of pirating, if Netflix had everything you wanted to watch, for $5 a month? Who here would say no, and still pirate? Reply below and tell me if you would still pirate with those conditions?

    But instead, netflix is pushing $20 a month, and the video hosting is fractured among multiple hosts, all of which overcharge, AND want to serve ads.

    Oh hey, right on cue. It's a skull and bones flag approaching.

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    I gind it kind of ironic that if the streaming services were federated and your subscription applied proportionally to the services where you watched different shows this problem would solve itself

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      I would still pirate. I like to have the files instead of proprietary apps

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      Same tbh. I like having a hard data copy of the things I enjoy, and have pride in my offline music library, which has been neatly filed with all the proper metadata tagged on. Now I can boot up Audacious (Linux) or MusicBee (Windows) and pick the genre I'm feeling that day. Or I can go out for a walk with one of the iPods I've restored and leave my phone at home.

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      • ratzchatsubo@lemm.eeR [email protected]

        We only pirate because it's easier and cheaper. If you actually had a catch all service (like old Netflix) for a low price, people would stop. Oh wait, we had that but greed got in the way again.

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        Just you wait till you see the arr stack (radarr, sonarr, lidarr, etc.)

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        • L [email protected]

          It is impossible to ban piracy. The whole concept is that it's not legal to begin with.

          I bet Lars Ulrich is so proud that he killed music piracy back when he killed napster.

          Except wait.....no he didn't he killed A service. Meaning singular. The concept of piracy moved on. We got limewire and torrents.

          The ONLY thing that has slowed (if not stopped) music piracy is making the content readily and easily available in a convienent consumption method at a reasonable price.

          Shocking, I know.

          The invention of iTunes CHARGING money for music in a (at the time) new more convienent method of music consumption at a reasonable price did leaps and bounds more to destroy piracy than Napsters downfall ever could.

          Now if only video services would learn this lession. Because it's the same lession. I don't know how they missed the memo on this.

          Put your video in one centralized place. Make it hassle free to watch. Charge a reasonable price. Piracy dies overnight.

          And just to prove it, show of hands. Who here would go through the effort and risk of pirating, if Netflix had everything you wanted to watch, for $5 a month? Who here would say no, and still pirate? Reply below and tell me if you would still pirate with those conditions?

          But instead, netflix is pushing $20 a month, and the video hosting is fractured among multiple hosts, all of which overcharge, AND want to serve ads.

          Oh hey, right on cue. It's a skull and bones flag approaching.

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          About 10 years ago, I signed up for a seedbox for torrenting purposes. USD 15/month, which was roughly the same as Netflix at the time. Since then, Netflix has repeatedly raised prices, dropped content, and added ads. On the other hand, I'm still paying $15/month for that seedbox, and they've upgraded my storage capacity and bandwidth allotment multiple times.

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          • V [email protected]

            Just you wait till you see the arr stack (radarr, sonarr, lidarr, etc.)

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            I really only hoard music media on Plex as I have friends who collect movies and I use streaming sites like Ororo.tv on Kodi.

            I tried Lidarr but I find that it is inconsistent enough that it is just a find-and-grab utility for me.

            I much prefer ripping tidal tracks on my phone using a tidal-dl in termix and then just using a ftp to my Pi when I get home

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            • I [email protected]

              I would still pirate. I like to have the files instead of proprietary apps

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              What if they gave you the files, with an easy download button ( with rate limits on downloads per user to avoid mass abuse )? Then, Netflix is basically providing a debrid service, which many people who pirate already pay more than 5$ for. Your VPN for torrenting is likely more than 5$. It's already trivially easy to rip a movie off a website ( even with DRM ), so this is not a real content control loss for them.

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                Good luck.

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                fre:ac is an open source alternative to EAC and is actually way better, in my opinion.

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                • daggermoon@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                  fre:ac is an open source alternative to EAC and is actually way better, in my opinion.

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                  Whipper is pretty much a text-based clone of EAC.

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                  • F [email protected]

                    What if they gave you the files, with an easy download button ( with rate limits on downloads per user to avoid mass abuse )? Then, Netflix is basically providing a debrid service, which many people who pirate already pay more than 5$ for. Your VPN for torrenting is likely more than 5$. It's already trivially easy to rip a movie off a website ( even with DRM ), so this is not a real content control loss for them.

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                    If they offered a service like GOG for movies I think it would be worth it. I don't have much time for movies though so I actually will buy several films a year on UHD Blu-ray. I only really pirate films that are either out of print or not available in my country on disc.

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                      Whipper is pretty much a text-based clone of EAC.

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                      That sounds cool as hell. I might try it out but I don't see myself switching software. I love cli tools.

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                        Aren't most torrent sites not based in the US to begin with?

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                        • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

                          I started using pirated software in 1990, back when my first PC was gifted to me. All software I had was copied because I could not afford jack shit on my own. It is thanks to pirated (and open source) software that I have the career I have, and can afford to spend thousands of dollars on legitimate software, music, movies, books, etc.

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                          I got my first computer, an Apple II, back in the 1980s as a hand-me-down from my (much older) brother when he left for college and I was just 6.

                          All but one disk was pirated.

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                            I really only hoard music media on Plex as I have friends who collect movies and I use streaming sites like Ororo.tv on Kodi.

                            I tried Lidarr but I find that it is inconsistent enough that it is just a find-and-grab utility for me.

                            I much prefer ripping tidal tracks on my phone using a tidal-dl in termix and then just using a ftp to my Pi when I get home

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                            FWIW, Lidarr works the worst out of the arr stack for me too. I don't know if there's just not enough well indexed material in my sources or what, but yeah, not great.

                            If your entire experience with the arr stack has been Lidarr so far, give it another shot! Sonarr and Radarr work absolutely perfectly. It's just such a nice feeling to open Jellyfin (or I guess Plex) on the TV and go "oh nice new episode is out!"

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                              We only pirate because it's easier and cheaper. If you actually had a catch all service (like old Netflix) for a low price, people would stop. Oh wait, we had that but greed got in the way again.

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                              As has often been reiterated: piracy is a service problem. If what you get by paying more is an inferior service, then people don’t want to pay for that service.

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                                We only pirate because it's easier and cheaper. If you actually had a catch all service (like old Netflix) for a low price, people would stop. Oh wait, we had that but greed got in the way again.

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                                I miss my $8 a month google music + YouTube red… I wonder if people got to keep the legacy price for YouTube premium

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                                  As has often been reiterated: piracy is a service problem. If what you get by paying more is an inferior service, then people don’t want to pay for that service.

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                                  100% true, haven't pirated a single game since I started using Steam and actually having a paycheck since about 10 years ago

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                                    I am quite fond of Nyaa :3

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                                      There's a part of me that has become annoyed that i'm forced to pay for a vpn to now access the entirety of the internet. I don't blame the vpn provider, though. Nope, they are not the ones I blame...

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                                        They already banned pornhub and pornographers. Fascists are geing to fash.

                                        MPA logo corrected

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                                        • flyingsquid@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                          Aren't most torrent sites not based in the US to begin with?

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                                          Has never stopped the world bully from bullying others.

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